Advise needed

[MikeT]

Have been offered this submariner. Does it look authentic. Does need a crown and a bracelet. Thoughts!


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[1675-David]

Step back from the buy button...

[rolexest]

What is the asking price? That is a scary plunge.

[mr ling]

Without knowing price it's hard to give advice. Otherwise my advice is walk away.

[1watch]

Negative. If it were authentic, it would be very expensive

[Tools]

Even though the photo is garbage..

The lume on both the plots and hands appear to be very recent applications.

[Handey0465]

Any smart phone has a focus setting...No excuse for the garbage picture....

[WiseRat]

Ask the seller to retake the photo using a camera and not a potato..

[1665fan]

The table is in focus lol....is that what your buying ???

[dhknola]

The pic is awful; upload something clear and multiple. From a really bad pic, bezel might be real? Dial and hands look redone.

[MikeT]

Haven't nailed the price down yet , so would rather not say. what would be a reasonable price range if authentic.

Picture was sent to me by seller and will be able to take better pictures when i see it in person. also will be able to photograph the movement and case.

[rolexest]

Best action to take would be to take some more detailed photos, find out what it would cost, and then come back to the forum for opinions.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by MikeT

Haven't nailed the price down yet , so would rather not say. what would be a reasonable price range if authentic.

Picture was sent to me by seller and will be able to take better pictures when i see it in person. also will be able to photograph the movement and case.

This may be a case of "If you have to ask, you can't afford it".

Christy's sold a Sub 6538 at auction for $1,000,000.00, the most expensive Sub to be sold. They typically go for north of $90k..

This one has some immediate issues, so you could likely pick it up for a steal.

Personally, I think that it has been built to resemble a 6538, or it's a completely overhauled, "James Bond" watch..

[BigBlue1]

Wait for the better photos.

[Nikrnic]

Red flag due to those purposely? out of focus pics.

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[vintagewatch]

Originally Posted by MikeT

Haven't nailed the price down yet , so would rather not say. what would be a reasonable price range if authentic.

Picture was sent to me by seller and will be able to take better pictures when i see it in person. also will be able to photograph the movement and case.

Here's a few links for fairly recent auctions for Reference 6538. Serious money.

https://www.phillips.com/detail/rolex/NY080118/77

http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/...54/lot.77.html

[Styles Bitchley]

Even with the bad photo, it looks fake to me.

[MikeT]

So I’m not the best at taking pictures, does need a crown, new bracelet or reconditioning, caliber 1030and serial starts with 144. Appears at one point dial has been touched up.


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[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by MikeT

Mike, just move the camera back. It doesn't need to be right on top of the watch. A good rule of thumb is, if it doesn't look in focus on your phone, it's gonna look that much worse on a forum. Surely you can see how out of focus it is

[stmoore]

Odd the service marks have seemingly been buffed out from inside the caseback.
As others have stated, great photos help. Get some natural light, nothing too harsh, hold the camera back. A 2x zoom on an iPhone works wonders.

[zapokee]

Can't tell anything from these photos. If there's even a glimmer of doubt, which there very much is, step away briskly.

[alwayshere]

baffles me when people ask for better dial pics and the subsequent dial pics are the same quality... you managed to focus in on the bracelet this time round :)

[Tools]

Originally Posted by MikeT

Have been offered this submariner. Does it look authentic. Does need a crown and a bracelet. Thoughts!

Going back to your original question.

No, it does not look authentic to me. It looks like one of the many 6538 repos out there, with an old 1030 movement.

Naturally, if you are willing to spend the type of money a true 6538 would bring, you would want the advice of a true vintage expert.

[MikeT]

Originally Posted by Tools

Going back to your original question.

No, it does not look authentic to me. It looks like one of the many 6538 repos out there, with an old 1030 movement.

Naturally, if you are willing to spend the type of money a true 6538 would bring, you would want the advice of a true vintage expert.

Yes! Agreed, this Fell into my lap unexpectedly. Timing with what’s going on around makes it very difficult to take have authenticated by expert because of closures.


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[offrdmania]

Ive never seen a 6538 insert look that good

[stmoore]

Originally Posted by offrdmania

Ive never seen a 6538 insert look that good

I’ve never seen one look that blurry

[twnturbo]

Your pics are just as bad as the 1st ones ,it looks like it has some kind of protective plastic covering the watch ?

[Michael M.]

With exception to the movement, this 6538 is completely fake.

[Mark020]

+1. And that could be expected from post #1.

[Bluebirdwatch1]

Originally Posted by WiseRat

Ask the seller to retake the photo using a camera and not a potato..

You can get really good pictures with potatoes though!


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