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209Wrist · 20 May 2020, 10:36 AM

About 9 months ago I was put on a list for a black dial explorer 2 at my local AD. I had no purchase history and never bought anything from them. I had only stopped in one time about a month after I was first put on the list to show I was still interested. Today, out of nowhere they give me a call letting me know they had one waiting for me.

As exciting as that was, I had since learned that the explorer 2 is just a bit too large for my wrist and have developed a purchase history/relationship with a different nearby AD and am close to getting a Sub Date from them.

Even though it was a bummer that I still have to wait for my first Rolex, it was exhilarating to get a call from an AD with an offer to buy a SS model. That was a first for me and made me realize that I think the AD game makes me enjoy the purchase a bit more. I totally get the thrill of the hunt and think once I get my first kill under my belt, I’ll be chasing that feeling forever.

Hopefully my next post here will be with pictures of my new Sub Date on wrist. =]

jack1 · 20 May 2020, 12:12 PM

Haha maybe..however the Exp2 is a beautiful piece with that nice pop of orange
Depends on your wrist size though I guess, whether the slight increased diameter is too much. It’s quite thin though. I’ve got a 114060 and it does sit very well

Review today on T&T:
https://timeandtidewatches.com/rolex...e-216570-42mm/

Handey0465 · 20 May 2020, 12:33 PM

You should have told the first AD to take you off the list months ago. Or did you stay on the list so you could try it on?

I always assumed if you were on a list, it was a guaranteed sale...

Apparently not...

I would have hated to tell an AD what I wanted, and then the AD follows through 9 months later and call me, just for me to turn it down...

DG123 · 20 May 2020, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handey0465

You should have told the first AD to take you off the list months ago. Or did you stay on the list so you could try it on?

I always assumed if you were on a list, it was a guaranteed sale...

Apparently not...

I would have hated to tell an AD what I wanted, and then the AD follows through 9 months later and call me, just for me to turn it down...

AD sales representatives often call multiple potential customers before one agrees to purchase the watch.
Why would you assume a name on a list constitutes a "guaranteed sale"?

schoolboy · 20 May 2020, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handey0465

You should have told the first AD to take you off the list months ago. Or did you stay on the list so you could try it on?

I always assumed if you were on a list, it was a guaranteed sale...

Apparently not...

I would have hated to tell an AD what I wanted, and then the AD follows through 9 months later and call me, just for me to turn it down...

I apologize but I disagree. Most posts are even real (I’ve heard).

Imagine walking in and saying “hey, I’m no longer interested in the Daytona, can you take me off the list?”

“What list?”

Lol

Sgb020 · 20 May 2020, 12:54 PM

Congrats on the explorer 2 I love the watch. I am getting fed up with Rolex, having to be on a waiting list for an explorer 2 is a joke. Sorry for the rant!

Psmith · 20 May 2020, 12:55 PM

This is not directed at the OP in any way, but this 'new(ish) normal' with ADs is a sad state of affairs, along with some people seemingly happy to pay ridiculously over MRSP (which just feeds the problem imo). I get that it's a free market, etc...

BumbleB · 20 May 2020, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schoolboy

I apologize but I disagree. Most posts are even real (I’ve heard).

Imagine walking in and saying “hey, I’m no longer interested in the Daytona, can you take me off the list?”

“What list?”

Lol

It may be different by chain, but with my AD there definitely is a list if ‘expression of interest’ for certain models. I’ve seen the forms to be filled up.

The management of that chain will then decide who will be the next person to receive a certain model based on their purchase history and their comfort with the person not flipping it.

However, if a high-roller walks in and drops 50-100k on some full PM DayDates then he/she jumps to the top of that list.

Apparently the amount that qualifies a high-roller also differs by size of store and foot traffic.

That’s how it works in Asia. Not sure if it’s the same in other parts of the world.

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ltmgeller · 20 May 2020, 01:08 PM

I nice to get the call, but even nicer to get the watch. Happy hunting.

BumbleB · 20 May 2020, 01:11 PM

I think the Exp II is more functional than the SubDate.

I bought mine earlier this year and it’s become one of my favourite dailies.

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NYCWATCHCREW · 20 May 2020, 01:12 PM

Congrats my friend!!! I think you are right in that the chase and game adds to the satisfaction in the end. The mountains I had to lift for my Hulk and time I put into getting that watch makes me feel that more attached to it.

vint0 · 20 May 2020, 01:15 PM

I know that feeling that goes with finally getting the call, especially when it's after a long wait.
It's even a better feeling when you receive the watch and it's just everything you ask for.

campfire · 20 May 2020, 01:29 PM

Hope you get your Sub very soon. All the best.

Handey0465 · 20 May 2020, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG123

AD sales representatives often call multiple potential customers before one agrees to purchase the watch.
Why would you assume a name on a list constitutes a "guaranteed sale"?

Why would someone express interest to the AD to contact them when a watch arrives if they will not buy it when that time comes?

“I want a explorer 2. Call me when you get one”

“We got it sir”

“Ok, it’s too big. Never mind”

How ridiculous

Psmith · 20 May 2020, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handey0465

Why would someone express interest to the AD to contact them when a watch arrives if they will not buy it when that time comes?

“I want a explorer 2. Call me when you get one”

“We got it sir”

“Ok, it’s too big. Never mind”

How ridiculous

I don't see the problem with this. The potential customer has likely not been able to see or try the model on, and in any case an 'expression of interest' is not a full commitment to purchase. Given the apparent demand, you would expect that the AD has others to call or at the very least it would soon be snapped-up in the store.

Veering off slightly I think this whole waitlist/paying over MRSP thing is becoming farcical, especially given that it now seems to be extending to models that were until relatively recently fairly easy to find and certainly not commanding premiums. Some dealers must being laughing, especially when you consider the overall events of the past several months.

Macnavara · 20 May 2020, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schoolboy

I apologize but I disagree. Most posts are even real (I’ve heard).

Imagine walking in and saying “hey, I’m no longer interested in the Daytona, can you take me off the list?”

“What list?”

Lol

Ive always taken my name of the so called lists for two reasons.....one is to show that im not a flipper and the other is just to rub it in a little that ive been getting looked after elsewhere

Jfo122 · 20 May 2020, 04:25 PM

Congratulations on your call. This days no one knows what to expect but its good you got what you seek. cheers

schoolboy · 21 May 2020, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macnavara

Ive always taken my name of the so called lists for two reasons.....one is to show that im not a flipper and the other is just to rub it in a little that ive been getting looked after elsewhere

Haha very good points

Specially the second one

DG123 · 21 May 2020, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handey0465

Why would someone express interest to the AD to contact them when a watch arrives if they will not buy it when that time comes?

“I want a explorer 2. Call me when you get one”

“We got it sir”

“Ok, it’s too big. Never mind”

How ridiculous

Things change, that's life.

Nixshah · 21 May 2020, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handey0465

Why would someone express interest to the AD to contact them when a watch arrives if they will not buy it when that time comes?

“I want a explorer 2. Call me when you get one”

“We got it sir”

“Ok, it’s too big. Never mind”

How ridiculous

I think the current environment is ridiculous where a consumer has money in hand and cannot walk into a store and buy what he or she wants. I’m inclined to agree with your assessment, but what you describe above is a function of the OP being unable to try on the watch before committing, not a function of indecisiveness.

209Wrist · 20 November 2020, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixshah

I think the current environment is ridiculous where a consumer has money in hand and cannot walk into a store and buy what he or she wants. I’m inclined to agree with your assessment, but what you describe above is a function of the OP being unable to try on the watch before committing, not a function of indecisiveness.

Exactly, I had never had the chance to try one on in person and wish it had fit my wrist and taste better. I’m not a greedy person looking to flip and would rather leave it for others who may actually love it and wear it.

The dealer has since recognized I am not into rolexes to make a quick flip and has hinted that I should be up for a new sub date within the next few months.

thekman · 20 November 2020, 11:23 AM

I really don't get anyone who is so offended on behalf of the AD. Expressing interest in a watch is not a binding contract. I get asking to source a specific PM/diamond day date and not buying it is a dick move but expressing interest in a hot SS model and rejecting to buy it 9 months later is completely fine. First of all they did not source it specifically for him. He was most likely not even the first person they called and they probably sold it in the next few hours.

I have expressed my interest for a BLNR at many ADs before one of them came through. Do you think I will trace my steps and call every single AD I ever stepped foot into to remove me from "the list" that most likely does not exist?

OP, hopefully you get your sub soon.

calatravato · 20 November 2020, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

I don't see the problem with this. The potential customer has likely not been able to see or try the model on, and in any case an 'expression of interest' is not a full commitment to purchase. Given the apparent demand, you would expect that the AD has others to call or at the very least it would soon be snapped-up in the store.

Veering off slightly I think this whole waitlist/paying over MRSP thing is becoming farcical, especially given that it now seems to be extending to models that were until relatively recently fairly easy to find and certainly not commanding premiums. Some dealers must being laughing, especially when you consider the overall events of the past several months.

Yeah-I wouldn’t worry about this either. Not like they’re gonna have problems selling the watch if you back out.

campfire · 20 November 2020, 11:33 AM

Hope the Sub comes soon OP.

AF_Rob · 20 November 2020, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 209Wrist

Exactly, I had never had the chance to try one on in person and wish it had fit my wrist and taste better. I’m not a greedy person looking to flip and would rather leave it for others who may actually love it and wear it.

The dealer has since recognized I am not into rolexes to make a quick flip and has hinted that I should be up for a new sub date within the next few months.

Agree, OP. You can’t help the situation, since you never had a chance to try it on.

Love the modern ExII in black, though. Hope you get your Sub soon.

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vh2k · 20 November 2020, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handey0465

Why would someone express interest to the AD to contact them when a watch arrives if they will not buy it when that time comes?

“I want a explorer 2. Call me when you get one”

“We got it sir”

“Ok, it’s too big. Never mind”

How ridiculous

Not at all. I turn down pieces all the time. No better way for the AD to be reminded (a) I’m not a flipper, (b) they serve me (not the other way around), and (c) I don’t just buy anything I’m offered like a sheep. I buy sometimes... but not a majority of the time.

Turning down pieces often boosts your chances of being offered more/other pieces on a regular basis.

worldofoyster · 20 November 2020, 12:21 PM

did you turn it down?

PizzaAndCheesecake · 20 November 2020, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handey0465

Why would someone express interest to the AD to contact them when a watch arrives if they will not buy it when that time comes?

“I want a explorer 2. Call me when you get one”

“We got it sir”

“Ok, it’s too big. Never mind”

How ridiculous

I have to disagree, I’m on a waitlist for an Explorer 1 and due to lack of stock I wasn’t able to try one on in the shop. I have slim wrists and the first time I’ll try it on for size is after I get the call that they have one

ThatSubGuy · 20 November 2020, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handey0465

Why would someone express interest to the AD to contact them when a watch arrives if they will not buy it when that time comes?

“I want a explorer 2. Call me when you get one”

“We got it sir”

“Ok, it’s too big. Never mind”

How ridiculous

I once expressed interest in an OF model. A few days later I decided I'd rather have a bracelet and bought a different model instead.

AD called 3 weeks later that they now had an OF for me. I said thanks for calling, unfortunately I don't have an interest any longer and explained why. No big deal.

youthagainsttt · 20 November 2020, 05:57 PM

Same thing happened to me yesterday, I put my name down for a 126655 and they said it's ready for me to pick up. But I had to turn it down, since putting my name down I bought another watch already.

20 May 2020, 10:36 AM	#1
209Wrist "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: CA Posts: 84	Just experienced my first time getting “The Call” About 9 months ago I was put on a list for a black dial explorer 2 at my local AD. I had no purchase history and never bought anything from them. I had only stopped in one time about a month after I was first put on the list to show I was still interested. Today, out of nowhere they give me a call letting me know they had one waiting for me. As exciting as that was, I had since learned that the explorer 2 is just a bit too large for my wrist and have developed a purchase history/relationship with a different nearby AD and am close to getting a Sub Date from them. Even though it was a bummer that I still have to wait for my first Rolex, it was exhilarating to get a call from an AD with an offer to buy a SS model. That was a first for me and made me realize that I think the AD game makes me enjoy the purchase a bit more. I totally get the thrill of the hunt and think once I get my first kill under my belt, I’ll be chasing that feeling forever. Hopefully my next post here will be with pictures of my new Sub Date on wrist. =]

20 May 2020, 12:55 PM	#7
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	This is not directed at the OP in any way, but this 'new(ish) normal' with ADs is a sad state of affairs, along with some people seemingly happy to pay ridiculously over MRSP (which just feeds the problem imo). I get that it's a free market, etc... __________________

20 May 2020, 01:08 PM	#9
ltmgeller 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 22,574	I nice to get the call, but even nicer to get the watch. Happy hunting. __________________ Oh, look at the time... Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2019

20 May 2020, 01:11 PM	#10
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20 November 2020, 11:23 AM	#22
thekman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Boston Watch: 16610LV Posts: 1,051	I really don't get anyone who is so offended on behalf of the AD. Expressing interest in a watch is not a binding contract. I get asking to source a specific PM/diamond day date and not buying it is a dick move but expressing interest in a hot SS model and rejecting to buy it 9 months later is completely fine. First of all they did not source it specifically for him. He was most likely not even the first person they called and they probably sold it in the next few hours. I have expressed my interest for a BLNR at many ADs before one of them came through. Do you think I will trace my steps and call every single AD I ever stepped foot into to remove me from "the list" that most likely does not exist? OP, hopefully you get your sub soon. __________________ Rolex \| AP \| Cartier \| VC \| Lange Follow me www.instagram.com/subs.n.scrubs

20 May 2020, 12:12 PM	#2
jack1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Australia Posts: 92	Haha maybe..however the Exp2 is a beautiful piece with that nice pop of orange Depends on your wrist size though I guess, whether the slight increased diameter is too much. It’s quite thin though. I’ve got a 114060 and it does sit very well Review today on T&T: https://timeandtidewatches.com/rolex...e-216570-42mm/

20 May 2020, 12:33 PM	#3
Handey0465 Banned Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Mark Location: South Carolina Watch: 126711CHNR Posts: 511	You should have told the first AD to take you off the list months ago. Or did you stay on the list so you could try it on? I always assumed if you were on a list, it was a guaranteed sale... Apparently not... I would have hated to tell an AD what I wanted, and then the AD follows through 9 months later and call me, just for me to turn it down...

20 May 2020, 12:54 PM	#6
Sgb020 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Seth Location: Texas Posts: 142	Congrats on the explorer 2 I love the watch. I am getting fed up with Rolex, having to be on a waiting list for an explorer 2 is a joke. Sorry for the rant!

20 May 2020, 01:12 PM	#11
NYCWATCHCREW "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Real Name: Robert Location: Long Island NY Watch: The Hulk Posts: 823	Congrats my friend!!! I think you are right in that the chase and game adds to the satisfaction in the end. The mountains I had to lift for my Hulk and time I put into getting that watch makes me feel that more attached to it.

20 May 2020, 01:15 PM	#12
vint0 Banned Join Date: May 2020 Location: USA Watch: Rolex 116610ln Posts: 136	I know that feeling that goes with finally getting the call, especially when it's after a long wait. It's even a better feeling when you receive the watch and it's just everything you ask for.

20 May 2020, 01:29 PM	#13
campfire "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: here Posts: 2,104	Hope you get your Sub very soon. All the best.

20 May 2020, 04:25 PM	#17
Jfo122 Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: USA Posts: 207	Congratulations on your call. This days no one knows what to expect but its good you got what you seek. cheers

20 November 2020, 11:33 AM	#24
campfire "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: here Posts: 2,104	Hope the Sub comes soon OP.

20 November 2020, 12:21 PM	#27
worldofoyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vincent Location: 215 Watch: SS Sub Posts: 2,361	did you turn it down?

20 November 2020, 05:57 PM	#30
youthagainsttt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: HK Watch: Piaget,Rolex,AP,HB Posts: 1,040	Same thing happened to me yesterday, I put my name down for a 126655 and they said it's ready for me to pick up. But I had to turn it down, since putting my name down I bought another watch already.

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