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georgekart · 8 September 2020, 09:43 AM

I made a thread 3 days ago about old warranty cards on new releases. And linked this watch to show that. It was dismissed as Photoshop. However since then I have stumbled across a few more new releases with old style warranty cards:

OP41 blue sunburst dial in UK
Black date Sub in Spain
Cermit in the USA
Bluesy in Spain

That's already 5 watches. All different models. An OP41 and 4 different Subs, ND, black SS, Cermit and Bluesy. The Cermit even has the new bracelet code of the new Sub on it. If someone was editing it, it would be easier to edit one of those cards that don't state the bracelet instead of trying to edit that bracelet on there prefectly. At this point I don't think it's Photoshopped (or OK, maybe the ND is since people seemed to think it was a bad edit, I'll give you that, but all 5?) and seems like some of the new releases actually do come with the old cards, so the only logical conclusion would be that they were shipped to ADs before the new cards. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think Rolex is just rolling out those cards gradually and some new watches received now still come with old cards? Or do you think all of those are edited?

JWD531 · 8 September 2020, 09:45 AM

I got a 2020 Sub in May 2020. It came with the old style card. I got a BLNR in June 2020 and it came with the new style card.

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David5807 · 8 September 2020, 09:47 AM

I got a 116618LB 2 weeks ago and got an old-style card. Is this a problem or?

offrdmania · 8 September 2020, 09:58 AM

It just depends on when the watch was made. One may have been bought the day it arrived at the AD and the other may have been sitting in the safe for a while waiting on the right customer.

pain888 · 8 September 2020, 09:59 AM

July 2020 purchase
Pepsi,Daytona all old Warranty card..

offrdmania · 8 September 2020, 10:01 AM

Purchase date and manufacturing date are two different things. There have been threads about older watches that were bought years after their serial number range.

P1nky_Up · 8 September 2020, 10:05 AM

That’s very strange IMO. You figure the new watches would come with the new cards. OP is not referring to previously released watches that were recently bought. He’s specifically talking about the releases from this month, which was WEEKS after the new cards started showing up. My guess is there were old cards still sitting around when the physical watch was made. My SkyD has new card, so maybe it was actually produced after some of the new release watches were produced. But my SkyD was shipped to dealer before new releases since the new releases had not been released yet.

chrisbranch1212 · 8 September 2020, 10:08 AM

Sorry if I am out of loop here but what is the difference between new and old warranty card?

RolexSimon · 8 September 2020, 10:09 AM

Pepsi WG July - new card. I'd imagine the new subs have been in production for a while so may have been pre-June or so and hence the old card. To enable all ADs to get stocks soon after 1st September, they'd have been working on them for a while.

Singslinger · 8 September 2020, 11:09 AM

Steel silver dial Sky-Dweller, July 2020, old card - had to write my name in full.

Orangejoe · 8 September 2020, 11:14 AM

Some of the new models being delivered now were produced months ago, some a few weeks ago.

The facility used whatever card they had in stock.

Robf52 · 8 September 2020, 11:19 AM

116508 purchased August, new card.

BumbleB · 8 September 2020, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgekart

I made a thread 3 days ago about old warranty cards on new releases. And linked this watch to show that. It was dismissed as Photoshop. However since then I have stumbled across a few more new releases with old style warranty cards:

OP41 blue sunburst dial in UK
Black date Sub in Spain
Cermit in the USA
Bluesy in Spain

That's already 5 watches. All different models. An OP41 and 4 different Subs, ND, black SS, Cermit and Bluesy. The Cermit even has the new bracelet code of the new Sub on it. If someone was editing it, it would be easier to edit one of those cards that don't state the bracelet instead of trying to edit that bracelet on there prefectly. At this point I don't think it's Photoshopped (or OK, maybe the ND is since people seemed to think it was a bad edit, I'll give you that, but all 5?) and seems like some of the new releases actually do come with the old cards, so the only logical conclusion would be that they were shipped to ADs before the new cards. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think Rolex is just rolling out those cards gradually and some new watches received now still come with old cards? Or do you think all of those are edited?

I think it’s by region. My AD told me in some countries they already hve new warranty cards, in some they don’t.

They’ll probably roll it out slowly, doesn’t mean anything.

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Tools · 8 September 2020, 11:39 AM

These watches were probably boxed, warehoused, and ready to be shipped after Baselworld. That didn't happen, so here we are, about a year or more after they were actually manufactured and packaged.

tng11 · 12 September 2020, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BumbleB

I think it’s by region. My AD told me in some countries they already hve new warranty cards, in some they don’t.

They’ll probably roll it out slowly, doesn’t mean anything.

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I spoke to my ADs here in Canada about the new cards - all 3 of them told me they have not yet seen any of the new cards, even on the new September 1st releases.

My understanding is that the cards are actually printed at the local distributor once they are allocated to that specific AD, hence there are some variations between card formats in different countries (e.g. different date format, NA cards have the dial/bracelet info printed).

2nastie · 12 September 2020, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tng11

I spoke to my ADs here in Canada about the new cards - all 3 of them told me they have not yet seen any of the new cards, even on the new September 1st releases.

My understanding is that the cards are actually printed at the local distributor once they are allocated to that specific AD, hence there are some variations between card formats in different countries (e.g. different date format, NA cards have the dial/bracelet info printed).

Same here on the west coast; however, I believe one group has received versions of the new card.

alex.cicollo · 12 September 2020, 06:33 AM

Not a 2020 new release, although a new watch ..... but here it goes.... UK Daytona steel white face purchased at AD on 9/9/2020 with new card

Jagsie · 12 September 2020, 07:01 AM

Deepsea July 2020, old style card

Srct · 12 September 2020, 07:20 AM

Not a new phenomenon with Rolex back in 2007 when the change from paper to the credit card style happened there was a mixture.

Sprta · 12 September 2020, 07:29 AM

Daytona White dial SS purchased Sept 6, new card. No name just date of purchase written on it.

jrox · 12 September 2020, 07:34 AM

Explorer 214270 from UK AD 10/9/2020 with new card

speedbird · 12 September 2020, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tng11

I spoke to my ADs here in Canada about the new cards - all 3 of them told me they have not yet seen any of the new cards, even on the new September 1st releases.

My understanding is that the cards are actually printed at the local distributor once they are allocated to that specific AD, hence there are some variations between card formats in different countries (e.g. different date format, NA cards have the dial/bracelet info printed).

This makes sense...I also believe Rolex ship watch and card to AD separately.

Anyway to add, I purchased two watches (not new releases) in August. One had old and one had new. Purchased a new release this month with the new card.

epc2 · 12 September 2020, 09:14 AM

It's a regional thing , I know AD's out of US that have not received the new cards.

Tanalasta · 12 September 2020, 09:26 AM

New card for August DJ in Oz

chrisbranch1212 · 12 September 2020, 11:44 AM

Sorry for repeat, what's the difference between old vs new warranty card?

georgekart · 12 September 2020, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisbranch1212

Sorry for repeat, what's the difference between old vs new warranty card?

Here's an article.

georgekart · 12 September 2020, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tng11

My understanding is that the cards are actually printed at the local distributor once they are allocated to that specific AD, hence there are some variations between card formats in different countries (e.g. different date format, NA cards have the dial/bracelet info printed).

Yes there are variations between cards for different countries. Rolex USA has their own warranty AFAIK and is completely different from others. All others are Rolex SA, but still have differences. Some list bracelet, some don't. Date format might differ on different cards. Etc. If I had to guess it depends on what on the old card would be a country code. So in countries with more than one LC even cards with different LC can differ. But UK has only one code (160) and we saw 2020 release UK watches with old cards and also watches sold in UK with new cards. I don't think that'd happen unless those watches were shipped to ADs before new cards.

alphadweller · 13 September 2020, 12:57 AM

Bought a new Sub today, came with the old style card.

kittansett · 13 September 2020, 09:09 PM

This is no different than the NOS Batman, LV and Two tone LV that were retired, and reissued the past month to US AD's with a new card. These were retired the past 2 years. Apparently, a box was shipped to Rolex USA full of NOS GMT's. They were then allocated to Big AD's throughout the US quietly.

winst · 13 September 2020, 09:27 PM

Explorer 214270 from UK AD 05/09/2020 with new card

8 September 2020, 09:43 AM	#1
georgekart "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,543	Old warranty cards on 2020 releases I made a thread 3 days ago about old warranty cards on new releases. And linked this watch to show that. It was dismissed as Photoshop. However since then I have stumbled across a few more new releases with old style warranty cards: OP41 blue sunburst dial in UK Black date Sub in Spain Cermit in the USA Bluesy in Spain That's already 5 watches. All different models. An OP41 and 4 different Subs, ND, black SS, Cermit and Bluesy. The Cermit even has the new bracelet code of the new Sub on it. If someone was editing it, it would be easier to edit one of those cards that don't state the bracelet instead of trying to edit that bracelet on there prefectly. At this point I don't think it's Photoshopped (or OK, maybe the ND is since people seemed to think it was a bad edit, I'll give you that, but all 5?) and seems like some of the new releases actually do come with the old cards, so the only logical conclusion would be that they were shipped to ADs before the new cards. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think Rolex is just rolling out those cards gradually and some new watches received now still come with old cards? Or do you think all of those are edited?

8 September 2020, 09:45 AM	#2
JWD531 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Tulsa, OK Watch: 126710 BLNR Posts: 621	Old warranty cards on 2020 releases I got a 2020 Sub in May 2020. It came with the old style card. I got a BLNR in June 2020 and it came with the new style card. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 September 2020, 09:58 AM	#4
offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,996	It just depends on when the watch was made. One may have been bought the day it arrived at the AD and the other may have been sitting in the safe for a while waiting on the right customer. __________________ TRF Member 11738

8 September 2020, 09:59 AM	#5
pain888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Tony Location: Rolex Land Posts: 576	July 2020 purchase Pepsi,Daytona all old Warranty card.. __________________ M116519 WG, M16622, 116610LN, 218235(Olive), 116710(Batman), 126710(Pepsi), 116500(Black) AP ROYAL OAK OFFSHORE CHRONOGRAPH SEIKO SRP773 "LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST"

8 September 2020, 10:01 AM	#6
offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,996	Purchase date and manufacturing date are two different things. There have been threads about older watches that were bought years after their serial number range. __________________ TRF Member 11738

8 September 2020, 09:47 AM	#3
David5807 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: USA Posts: 2,699	I got a 116618LB 2 weeks ago and got an old-style card. Is this a problem or?

8 September 2020, 10:05 AM	#7
P1nky_Up "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Virginia Posts: 576	That’s very strange IMO. You figure the new watches would come with the new cards. OP is not referring to previously released watches that were recently bought. He’s specifically talking about the releases from this month, which was WEEKS after the new cards started showing up. My guess is there were old cards still sitting around when the physical watch was made. My SkyD has new card, so maybe it was actually produced after some of the new release watches were produced. But my SkyD was shipped to dealer before new releases since the new releases had not been released yet.

8 September 2020, 10:08 AM	#8
chrisbranch1212 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Ontario Posts: 57	Sorry if I am out of loop here but what is the difference between new and old warranty card?

8 September 2020, 10:09 AM	#9
RolexSimon "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,375	Pepsi WG July - new card. I'd imagine the new subs have been in production for a while so may have been pre-June or so and hence the old card. To enable all ADs to get stocks soon after 1st September, they'd have been working on them for a while.

8 September 2020, 11:09 AM	#10
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	Steel silver dial Sky-Dweller, July 2020, old card - had to write my name in full.

8 September 2020, 11:14 AM	#11
Orangejoe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: PA, USA Posts: 284	Some of the new models being delivered now were produced months ago, some a few weeks ago. The facility used whatever card they had in stock. __________________ Truth be told today many don't wear a watch, they just wear the brand. -padi56

8 September 2020, 11:19 AM	#12
Robf52 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Sunshine State Watch: lots of Rolex Posts: 5,060	116508 purchased August, new card. __________________ 126610LV//116508 Daytona YG Black/Champagne 116655 YM40 Everose Oysterflex//126622 YM40 Blue//126600 SD43 126710BLNR//126711CHNR 126334 DJ41 Rhodium/Diamonds//126331 DJ41 TT Wimbledon 124300 OP41 Green//126334 DJ41Mint Green

8 September 2020, 11:39 AM	#14
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,502	These watches were probably boxed, warehoused, and ready to be shipped after Baselworld. That didn't happen, so here we are, about a year or more after they were actually manufactured and packaged. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

12 September 2020, 06:33 AM	#17
alex.cicollo 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: Alex Location: Europe Watch: A few Posts: 2,201	Old warranty cards on 2020 releases Not a 2020 new release, although a new watch ..... but here it goes.... UK Daytona steel white face purchased at AD on 9/9/2020 with new card

12 September 2020, 07:01 AM	#18
Jagsie "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: UK Watch: 116610LN,126660-JC Posts: 172	Deepsea July 2020, old style card

12 September 2020, 07:20 AM	#19
Srct "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: UK Watch: 116610LV Posts: 236	Not a new phenomenon with Rolex back in 2007 when the change from paper to the credit card style happened there was a mixture.

12 September 2020, 07:29 AM	#20
Sprta "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 457	Daytona White dial SS purchased Sept 6, new card. No name just date of purchase written on it.

12 September 2020, 07:34 AM	#21
jrox "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: London, UK Posts: 159	Explorer 214270 from UK AD 10/9/2020 with new card

12 September 2020, 09:14 AM	#23
epc2 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Fl Watch: 116610LV,Pam etc. Posts: 1,328	It's a regional thing , I know AD's out of US that have not received the new cards.

12 September 2020, 09:26 AM	#24
Tanalasta "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: . Posts: 602	New card for August DJ in Oz

12 September 2020, 11:44 AM	#25
chrisbranch1212 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Ontario Posts: 57	Sorry for repeat, what's the difference between old vs new warranty card?

13 September 2020, 12:57 AM	#28
alphadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vic Location: Spain Watch: SD43 Posts: 6,193	Bought a new Sub today, came with the old style card.

13 September 2020, 09:09 PM	#29
kittansett "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Never never land Posts: 208	This is no different than the NOS Batman, LV and Two tone LV that were retired, and reissued the past month to US AD's with a new card. These were retired the past 2 years. Apparently, a box was shipped to Rolex USA full of NOS GMT's. They were then allocated to Big AD's throughout the US quietly.

13 September 2020, 09:27 PM	#30
winst "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: UK Posts: 6,634	Explorer 214270 from UK AD 05/09/2020 with new card

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