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007Sub · 26 September 2020, 04:04 AM

Hi all,

A friend recently told me that the SD4k has 2 different dials. Specifically that the earlier ones are more matted than the later ones. I was wondering if anyone has more info on this or can point me in the direction of some photo comparisons. Ive been searching on TRF but can't seem to find a thread on this. Any help would be great as I'm looking to pick one up and want to figure out which I prefer (if thats even a decision I need to take into account).

Thanks all!

Greg

scooba · 26 September 2020, 04:17 AM

Your friend is correct ! .

phrede · 26 September 2020, 04:26 AM

I have had 3 different vintages. All completely the same:

This is my late 2017:

And this was my ealy 2014:

- sent via iPhone

mistermann · 26 September 2020, 05:10 AM

I don't believe it.

phillycheez · 26 September 2020, 05:34 AM

One dial exists.

Somebody would have posted their unicorn or a grey dealer would be selling it for $50k.

iTreelex · 26 September 2020, 07:00 AM

There was a thread about this but from my knowledge there is only 1 dial.

007Sub · 27 September 2020, 06:05 AM

Thanks all. Thats helpful to know!

mav3rick · 27 September 2020, 06:33 AM

stop trying make something out of nothing

Dirt · 27 September 2020, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iTreelex

There was a thread about this but from my knowledge there is only 1 dial.

This

Initially I was in the camp that believed there was a subtle change to a different finish on the dial but I am absolutely convinced that the dial simply photographs differently in different lighting conditions. So much so that it's easy to come to the wrong conclusion.
I now firmly believe there was only ever one iteration of the dial following the thread way back on the subject

Thanos · 27 September 2020, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007Sub

Hi all,

A friend recently told me that the SD4k has 2 different dials. Specifically that the earlier ones are more matted than the later ones. I was wondering if anyone has more info on this or can point me in the direction of some photo comparisons. Ive been searching on TRF but can't seem to find a thread on this. Any help would be great as I'm looking to pick one up and want to figure out which I prefer (if thats even a decision I need to take into account).

Thanks all!

Greg

The DSSD yes

SD4K no

Your friend is confused

boogiebot · 27 September 2020, 08:50 AM

Off topic,but, I really wish I blight one of these when they were sitting in the case

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Mr. Superlative · 27 September 2020, 12:36 PM

I’m confident only one dial exists on this timepiece. The production run was only a few years, highly unlikely Rolex would change dial variations in that timeframe.

Bought mine at the tail end of 2015, whilst trying it on with a Sub at an AD! Oh I miss the good ol’ days when one could pick up a sports model without the need to go on a pilgrimage.

brucethemanlee · 27 September 2020, 12:53 PM

there's only one matte dial

nyfida · 27 September 2020, 01:15 PM

Awesome and special watch . I’m glad to own one and pass to my kid.

mistermann · 28 September 2020, 01:14 AM

Same watch, different lighting from an AD late 2017. I can see where the confusion might come from.

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fskywalker · 29 September 2020, 12:01 PM

Would be cool to see the new 126610 side by side with the SD4K to see how the lugs compare as the SD4K was always pointed as having slighly leas pronounced lugs versus the 116610 (which I don’t like)

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KBM · 29 September 2020, 12:26 PM

Only one satin finish type of goodness for this one.

scooba · 29 September 2020, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermann

Same watch, different lighting from an AD late 2017. I can see where the confusion might come from.

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I have the matt dial and was convinced a glossy dial did exist but if you say thus is the same watch ,Now I am confused

iTreelex · 29 September 2020, 01:19 PM

Indoor lighting makes the dial "glossy" like a deep black but once it hits some harsh lighting you can see the matte come out.

Still the best 6 digit reference out there hands down.

kittansett · 29 September 2020, 01:57 PM

Future grail. The last of the stainless steel model by Rolex before the shortage right after this model was discontinued.

TVal07 · 3 October 2020, 05:19 AM

I’ve got one of my own, but I’ve also seen and handled a few SD4K over the years and agree that there is only one matte dial.

To me, it’s the way light plays off the dial - the deep black “gloss” effect indoors contrasted with the sunlit almost gray-brown matte effect - that makes this watch my absolute favorite Rolex.

Totally agree that it’s the best six digit reference out there.

Bazza. · 3 October 2020, 05:24 AM

To me its the best modern Rolex

Gasoil4ever · 3 October 2020, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazza.

To me its the best modern Rolex

I couldn’t agree more.

Everything is right about this one. Lugs, proportions, bracelet, dial and only came across 2 since 2015.

Gimoozaabi · 3 October 2020, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazza.

To me its the best modern Rolex

Fantastic watch and pic!
The SD4K is very special and still undervalued for what it is, it is a looker, perfect proportions!

sp006 · 3 October 2020, 06:19 AM

Don't hate me but I find it way more comfortable on rubber. I still use the glidelock though.

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whited3 · 3 October 2020, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp006

Don't hate me but I find it way more comfortable on rubber. I still use the glidelock though.

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Wow I love it... I may need to get myself one (rubber)

Rolex.c6 · 3 October 2020, 09:03 AM

Never seen nor have I heard of a dialvariation on the SD4K. Have tried on at least 3 or 4 different ones before buying the one I own and have never noticed any difference in the dial finishes. I do agree with the above statement the dial really changes with different lightning.
Although it being one of the trademarks of the Sea-Dweller, personally I'm not a huge fan of the matte dial. I would prefer a glossy one. But most of the time it's just a black dial, not too matte, not too glossy. So not a big deal.

synrrgy · 3 October 2020, 09:12 AM

I've always loved the proportions on the 116600, by far my favorite SD. Great pics everyone!

Gasoil4ever · 4 October 2020, 06:43 PM

Actually i think it is not a matte dial. I’d refer to it as a Satin dial.

scooba · 4 October 2020, 07:05 PM

The only fault I can find with a SD4k is the short minute hand

26 September 2020, 04:04 AM	#1
007Sub "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Greg Location: USA Watch: Milsub Posts: 1,635	SD4k 116600 dial variations Hi all, A friend recently told me that the SD4k has 2 different dials. Specifically that the earlier ones are more matted than the later ones. I was wondering if anyone has more info on this or can point me in the direction of some photo comparisons. Ive been searching on TRF but can't seem to find a thread on this. Any help would be great as I'm looking to pick one up and want to figure out which I prefer (if thats even a decision I need to take into account). Thanks all! Greg __________________ @true_patina @true.dome

27 September 2020, 06:05 AM	#7
007Sub "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Greg Location: USA Watch: Milsub Posts: 1,635	Thanks all. Thats helpful to know! __________________ @true_patina @true.dome

29 September 2020, 12:01 PM	#16
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,182	Would be cool to see the new 126610 side by side with the SD4K to see how the lugs compare as the SD4K was always pointed as having slighly leas pronounced lugs versus the 116610 (which I don’t like) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

3 October 2020, 05:24 AM	#22
Bazza. "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: UK Watch: Lots of them Posts: 195	To me its the best modern Rolex __________________ Rolex Kermit , DRSD, SD4k , Milgauss GV ,Red Sub , OP 39, Red ,Batman , Panerai 177 ,Seiko Tuna 007, SPB159, SPD083 , SRPD79, SQ100, SLA023, SPB159 Breitling Colt 41 , Zenith 1931 Pocket Watch, Laco Memmingen,Corum Jumping Hours LE 001/300 , Sinn EZM1 LE ,EZM2-GSG9 , U2 Black, EZM13 , UX-GSG9 ,556A, 104 , 144 60th Anniversary , Oris Diver 65 1st gen , CIGA X Series Titanium , Dwiss R2, Pequignet Royal Manual

3 October 2020, 09:03 AM	#27
Rolex.c6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Netherlands/Spain Watch: Sea-Dweller 116600 Posts: 1,030	Never seen nor have I heard of a dialvariation on the SD4K. Have tried on at least 3 or 4 different ones before buying the one I own and have never noticed any difference in the dial finishes. I do agree with the above statement the dial really changes with different lightning. Although it being one of the trademarks of the Sea-Dweller, personally I'm not a huge fan of the matte dial. I would prefer a glossy one. But most of the time it's just a black dial, not too matte, not too glossy. So not a big deal. __________________ Rolex.c6 Sea-Dweller 4000 SD4K Ref. 116600

26 September 2020, 04:17 AM	#2
scooba 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Europe Watch: Anything Posts: 2,586	Your friend is correct ! .

26 September 2020, 04:26 AM	#3
phrede "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Denmark Watch: Sea-Dweller 4000 Posts: 589	I have had 3 different vintages. All completely the same: This is my late 2017: And this was my ealy 2014: - sent via iPhone

26 September 2020, 05:10 AM	#4
mistermann "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Real Name: Drew Location: Iowa Watch: 116600 Posts: 496	I don't believe it.

26 September 2020, 05:34 AM	#5
phillycheez "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Portland Posts: 398	One dial exists. Somebody would have posted their unicorn or a grey dealer would be selling it for $50k.

26 September 2020, 07:00 AM	#6
iTreelex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Watchrecon Posts: 1,352	There was a thread about this but from my knowledge there is only 1 dial.

27 September 2020, 06:33 AM	#8
mav3rick "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Singapore Posts: 58	stop trying make something out of nothing

27 September 2020, 08:50 AM	#11
boogiebot "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: canada Watch: me post! Posts: 3,804	Off topic,but, I really wish I blight one of these when they were sitting in the case Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

27 September 2020, 12:36 PM	#12
Mr. Superlative "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Planet Earth Watch: Me Now Posts: 858	I’m confident only one dial exists on this timepiece. The production run was only a few years, highly unlikely Rolex would change dial variations in that timeframe. Bought mine at the tail end of 2015, whilst trying it on with a Sub at an AD! Oh I miss the good ol’ days when one could pick up a sports model without the need to go on a pilgrimage.

27 September 2020, 12:53 PM	#13
brucethemanlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: 1 of 13 Colonies Posts: 8,575	there's only one matte dial

27 September 2020, 01:15 PM	#14
nyfida "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: new york Posts: 539	Awesome and special watch . I’m glad to own one and pass to my kid.

28 September 2020, 01:14 AM	#15
mistermann "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Real Name: Drew Location: Iowa Watch: 116600 Posts: 496	Same watch, different lighting from an AD late 2017. I can see where the confusion might come from. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

29 September 2020, 12:26 PM	#17
KBM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,460	Only one satin finish type of goodness for this one.

29 September 2020, 01:19 PM	#19
iTreelex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Watchrecon Posts: 1,352	Indoor lighting makes the dial "glossy" like a deep black but once it hits some harsh lighting you can see the matte come out. Still the best 6 digit reference out there hands down.

29 September 2020, 01:57 PM	#20
kittansett "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Never never land Posts: 208	Future grail. The last of the stainless steel model by Rolex before the shortage right after this model was discontinued.

3 October 2020, 05:19 AM	#21
TVal07 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: NJ, United States Watch: 116600 (SD4K) Posts: 92	I’ve got one of my own, but I’ve also seen and handled a few SD4K over the years and agree that there is only one matte dial. To me, it’s the way light plays off the dial - the deep black “gloss” effect indoors contrasted with the sunlit almost gray-brown matte effect - that makes this watch my absolute favorite Rolex. Totally agree that it’s the best six digit reference out there.

3 October 2020, 06:19 AM	#25
sp006 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: New York Posts: 699	Don't hate me but I find it way more comfortable on rubber. I still use the glidelock though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 October 2020, 09:12 AM	#28
synrrgy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: California Posts: 1,472	I've always loved the proportions on the 116600, by far my favorite SD. Great pics everyone!

4 October 2020, 06:43 PM	#29
Gasoil4ever "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cameroun Watch: GS Snowflake Posts: 1,534	Actually i think it is not a matte dial. I’d refer to it as a Satin dial. __________________ 16710 GMT Master II "M" , SD4000, GS Snowflake, Stowa Marine Original.

4 October 2020, 07:05 PM	#30
scooba 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Europe Watch: Anything Posts: 2,586	The only fault I can find with a SD4k is the short minute hand

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