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Old 29 December 2020, 02:42 AM   #1
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Cellini or Lange Saxonia?

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I'm in the process of simplifying my collection. I've gone from 5 steel sports Rolexes down to an Explorer. I'm looking to add a nice dress watch and I have it down to the Rolex Cellini Time or the A. Lange Saxonia Thin. Both watches meet my criteria of:

39mm or below
No date
Precious metal

I've tried on the Cellini and absolutely loved it. Unfortunately I've not seen the Lange in person yet. I won't purchase one until I've tried on both.

Which do you think pairs better with the Explorer? If anyone owns these watches, can you comment on what you like or dislike about them?

They both have an MSRP of around $15,000 in the US. If anyone has some real world advice on the best place to purchase and pricing information, I'd really appreciate it. I'm guessing either of these can be had at a decent discount because they are not steel sports watches.

As always, pictures and thoughtful advice is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

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Old 29 December 2020, 02:48 AM   #2
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I vote ALS Saxonia.
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Old 29 December 2020, 02:51 AM   #3
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Old 29 December 2020, 02:52 AM   #4
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Old 29 December 2020, 02:53 AM   #5
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A Lange and it's not even close. Maybe because I'm not a big fan of the Cellini line-up..?

You should definitely try on the Lange first as it wears very small and very thin (which is both good/bad depending on what you're looking for in the watch).

I originally wanted a Saxonia Thin, well I still do, but after I tried the 1815 (38.5mm and a bit thicker) I kind of fell in love with that instead. It's unfortunately also a bit more $ :/

It has considerably more wrist-presence though, which is why I kinda preferred it.

Definitely check it out on the wrist first.
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Old 29 December 2020, 02:55 AM   #6
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Lange, not even close.

Rolex does good sports watches, particularly in SS. PM, dress watches, or high horology you'd get far better bang for buck elsewhere.
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Old 29 December 2020, 03:11 AM   #7
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Really not comparison - the ALS Saxonia is the clear winner here. Try one on and handle it and I'm sure you'll agree!
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IMO, the Saxonia "looks" like a $79 "gold toned" Timex.


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A Lange and it's not even close. Maybe because I'm not a big fan of the Cellini line-up..?

You should definitely try on the Lange first as it wears very small and very thin (which is both good/bad depending on what you're looking for in the watch).

I originally wanted a Saxonia Thin, well I still do, but after I tried the 1815 (38.5mm and a bit thicker) I kind of fell in love with that instead. It's unfortunately also a bit more $ :/

It has considerably more wrist-presence though, which is why I kinda preferred it.

Definitely check it out on the wrist first.
Thanks for the feedback! I absolutely love the 1815 line but they are definitely out of my price range. I will absolutely try them on once the pandemic slows down. It's too bad because I have nothing but time off until January and it's only a five hour drive to Dallas.

Do you have any insight into how often a Lange should be serviced and what the approximate cost would be? I'm planning to wear this watch 2-3 days per week.
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Old 29 December 2020, 03:18 AM   #10
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Lange...not even close, landslide. Period.
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Old 29 December 2020, 03:23 AM   #11
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I’m a Lange fan but that Saxonia does nothing for me. I like the looks of the Cellini better.
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Old 29 December 2020, 03:27 AM   #12
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The Lange is more prestigious to me — and we all know that showing off to fellow watch enthusiasts is key factor here.
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Old 29 December 2020, 03:28 AM   #13
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Really not comparison - the ALS Saxonia is the clear winner here. Try one on and handle it and I'm sure you'll agree!
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Lange...not even close, landslide. Period.
Wow. There is some serious passion for Lange. That comes through in all the videos I've watched on YouTube. But even more so in the comments after the video. I've never seen more universal praise for a brand. I cannot wait to see them in person!!!
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Old 29 December 2020, 03:31 AM   #14
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The Cellini.
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Old 29 December 2020, 03:35 AM   #15
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Lange for me, but I think the 1815 is much more interesting.

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Wow. There is some serious passion for Lange. That comes through in all the videos I've watched on YouTube. But even more so in the comments after the video. I've never seen more universal praise for a brand. I cannot wait to see them in person!!!
So true though - consider the Saxonia with the outsized date as well. I know you wanted a time only but coming from sports watches this may add just that little extra.
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Thanks for the feedback! I absolutely love the 1815 line but they are definitely out of my price range. I will absolutely try them on once the pandemic slows down. It's too bad because I have nothing but time off until January and it's only a five hour drive to Dallas.

Do you have any insight into how often a Lange should be serviced and what the approximate cost would be? I'm planning to wear this watch 2-3 days per week.
The 1815 is also out of what I feel comfortable with spending on a dress-watch, specially knowing it won't get much wrist-time with my lifestyle and current collection.

One day though, one day. Either a Saxonia thin or the 1815. Can't go wrong with either one.

ALS recommend a service schedule of 5-7 years but I don't see why you couldn't stretch it to 10-12 depending on usage and how it runs.

I've seen 30+ year old watches still run without a service. Of course once the service comes more parts will need replacing and it could get costly. 500-1200 for a Saxonia thin service is what I'd expect.
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Old 29 December 2020, 04:21 AM   #19
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ALS between the two, but I’d look at the VC Patrimony Traditionnelle small seconds as well.
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Old 29 December 2020, 04:24 AM   #20
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these watches look very different so I’m surprised they fulfill the same criteria, or maybe it’s suggesting you need additional criteria to narrow the list and compare more similar watches. the ALS is far more minimalist and note it doesn’t have a seconds hand, something that would drive me crazy.


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So true though - consider the Saxonia with the outsized date as well. I know you wanted a time only but coming from sports watches this may add just that little extra.

I’m a biased owner I want to add a light colored dial on strap and as I look at PP or JLC, I keep gravitating towards another offering from ALS despite not wanting to be overly redundant in a very small collection.

And, yes, I would highly recommend looking at the Saxonia outsize date...so versatile in my opinion. Again, biased owner...




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Cellini or Lange Saxonia?

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Gents,

I'm in the process of simplifying my collection. I've gone from 5 steel sports Rolexes down to an Explorer. I'm looking to add a nice dress watch and I have it down to the Rolex Cellini Time or the A. Lange Saxonia Thin. Both watches meet my criteria of:

39mm or below
No date
Precious metal

I've tried on the Cellini and absolutely loved it. Unfortunately I've not seen the Lange in person yet. I won't purchase one until I've tried on both.

Which do you think pairs better with the Explorer? If anyone owns these watches, can you comment on what you like or dislike about them?

They both have an MSRP of around $15,000 in the US. If anyone has some real world advice on the best place to purchase and pricing information, I'd really appreciate it. I'm guessing either of these can be had at a decent discount because they are not steel sports watches.

As always, pictures and thoughtful advice is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Mike

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Old 29 December 2020, 04:28 AM   #23
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Lange for sure. But as others have noted, look into the 1815 instead.
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Love the Cellini

I have the no date and LOVE it
It is the best value Rolex because of the lack of demand
Great value and beautiful watch
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Old 29 December 2020, 04:34 AM   #26
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Also.....

The Lange is hot and “popular” and Watchbox is continuously pushing it
Warning sign. Watchbox is a reseller. They can have more influence with Lange
They have NO INFLUENCE with Rolex
No one does
Thats why they don’t push Rolex
Rolex Cellini gets little respect
Don’t be misled by the crowd
The Cellini is a fantastic watch
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Old 29 December 2020, 04:37 AM   #27
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The 1815 is also out of what I feel comfortable with spending on a dress-watch, specially knowing it won't get much wrist-time with my lifestyle and current collection.

One day though, one day. Either a Saxonia thin or the 1815. Can't go wrong with either one.

ALS recommend a service schedule of 5-7 years but I don't see why you couldn't stretch it to 10-12 depending on usage and how it runs.

I've seen 30+ year old watches still run without a service. Of course once the service comes more parts will need replacing and it could get costly. 500-1200 for a Saxonia thin service is what I'd expect.

Thanks for the feedback on servicing. So I could give in 10 years, then drop a grand. Not bad at all! I’m sure the super complicated models are pretty pricey.


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Lange, in a landslide for me.
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The Lange is hot and “popular” and Watchbox is continuously pushing it
Warning sign. Watchbox is a reseller. They can have more influence with Lange
They have NO INFLUENCE with Rolex
No one does
Thats why they don’t push Rolex
Rolex Cellini gets little respect
Don’t be misled by the crowd
The Cellini is a fantastic watch

Lange sell for 30% off brand new grey and resale at even less. Completely not hot or hyped. FP Journe fits your description better.
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The Cellini moon phase is gorgeous and has real meteorite, that’s what is pick!
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