sub 5513 dial value

[Pierreothemad]

hello,

I'm willing to go for this 5513 but I'm still wondering about the dial.
serif / non serif / MK4 ?
any advices ? also what do you think it should cost knowing that this watche is 100%original.

thanks in advance for your advices?

regards,

[TimeToGo]

Welcome to the forum!

Don't know if you are familiar with:
http://www.5513mattedial.com/PreCOMEX.html

Great information.

Look at the Pre-Comex dial..

[Flyingpig698]

Yes the coronet looks like a Pre-Com and Year should be around there.


Best Regards,
Danny

[mignonp13]

Dial hands insert are Fake
Not sure of the case... need more pictures.


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[Pierreothemad]

Thank you very much. Wooa such a good website for 5513 and 1675 but I'm still not sure if it is a serif/nonserif or mk4 dial i don't think it is a pre comex.
what do you think should be a convenant price for this beauty ?

[1665fan]

Originally Posted by mignonp13

Dial hands insert are Fake
Not sure of the case... need more pictures.


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Are you sure??? I don’t like the insert myself...4 looks off

[Pierreothemad]

the tritium plot on the insert sounds good ....

[antrolexsub]

Originally Posted by mignonp13

dial hands insert are fake
not sure of the case... Need more pictures.


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+1

[mignonp13]

Originally Posted by Pierreothemad

Thank you very much. Wooa such a good website for 5513 and 1675 but I'm still not sure if it is a serif/nonserif or mk4 dial i don't think it is a pre comex.
what do you think should be a convenant price for this beauty ?

Did you read my comment ?? You want to buy that ??


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[mignonp13]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Are you sure??? I don’t like the insert myself...4 looks off

Yes I’m sure... but you can wait for more « known members » advices


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[1675-David]

I wouldn't buy this watch for the reasons already mentioned.

[Pierreothemad]

well thank you for the advice I will in this case pass this watch .... I think it is going to be a long journey to find the one :)

[airansun]

Be patient and be picky. Educate yourself and study photos.

It is possible to score a really nice vintage 5513, but it takes some time and work, because there’s so much out there that’s been doctored up.

It’s not perfect by any means, but I picked this up on eBay a little over a year ago.

[Pierreothemad]

Superb 5513, Indeed i will be patient but it is more and more difficult I guess.

[Handey0465]

Originally Posted by Pierreothemad

Superb 5513, Indeed i will be patient but it is more and more difficult I guess.

You seemed confident in the first post claiming it was 100% original. Where did you get this information?

[Rocketman39]

In the 55 years I have owned my 5513 a number of Parts have been replaced. Some may be fake as indicated in some posts on TRF. The services on this watch were done on two visits to RSC in New York and more recently by some Cowboys in Texas named Ridley. If any of the parts are Fake so be it, I love my watch and how it looks. It runs dead on the money. A tip of the Cowboy hat to the Ridleys for doing a fine Job ! I'm a Happy boy !

[Pierreothemad]

Originally Posted by Handey0465

You seemed confident in the first post claiming it was 100% original. Where did you get this information?

from the seller

[spoilsofwar01]

Originally Posted by Rocketman39

In the 55 years I have owned my 5513 a number of Parts have been replaced. Some may be fake as indicated in some posts on TRF. The services on this watch were done on two visits to RSC in New York and more recently by some Cowboys in Texas named Ridley. If any of the parts are Fake so be it, I love my watch and how it looks. It runs dead on the money. A tip of the Cowboy hat to the Ridleys for doing a fine Job ! I'm a Happy boy !

Well Said! I get the same running down of my 5513 that's 53 years old, it seem one of the biggest gripes is the service dial and hands, well Its my 5513 and you know what............. Its for keeps!

[spoilsofwar01]

Originally Posted by airansun

Be patient and be picky. Educate yourself and study photos.

It is possible to score a really nice vintage 5513, but it takes some time and work, because there’s so much out there that’s been doctored up.

It’s not perfect by any means, but I picked this up on eBay a little over a year ago.

Nice.......... errrrmmm just line your lume pip up to the 12 o'clock position and my ocd will calm down

[athom]

Originally Posted by Pierreothemad

well thank you for the advice I will in this case pass this watch .... I think it is going to be a long journey to find the one :)

Where did you find the one you posted ? Would be interesting to know which dealer has that to sell...

[swaini3]

"The watch is 100% Authentic"

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex...id18026059.htm

[Filipão]

Originally Posted by swaini3

"The watch is 100% Authentic"

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex...id18026059.htm

Lol... +

[Filipão]

OP take your time.

Learn, study and don't buy on impulse. Been there done that...

Any matte iteration of the 5513 has its own beauty, some will please you more than others, but ALL are true Subs.

If in doubt ask the forum. Many of us will help you out.

Below is my Maxi MK1 dialed 5513 from 1979.

Good luck! Best wishes Filipe

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by Pierreothemad

Superb 5513, Indeed i will be patient but it is more and more difficult I guess.

Finding a decent matte dial 5513 is actually not terribly difficult if you are willing to pay a fair market price. They are amongst the most common Rolex vintage sport watch models and made for more than 15 years. Unlike uncommon references, you can go out and buy a nice legitimate 5513 example any time you choose. Virtually every dealer has at least one. Try finding a decent 1655, 1019, or 5512 from the same era, and you will understand what I'm saying.

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by mignonp13

Dial hands insert are Fake
Not sure of the case... need more pictures.


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^^^ THis

[Pierreothemad]

superb one

[Pierreothemad]

Originally Posted by Dan S

Finding a decent matte dial 5513 is actually not terribly difficult if you are willing to pay a fair market price. They are amongst the most common Rolex vintage sport watch models and made for more than 15 years. Unlike uncommon references, you can go out and buy a nice legitimate 5513 example any time you choose. Virtually every dealer has at least one. Try finding a decent 1655, 1019, or 5512 from the same era, and you will understand what I'm saying.

thank you . how much do you think is a fair price ?

[bondtoys]

I‘ve never liked those uniformly perfect orange-ish lume plots.
We‘ve had one seller from HK who sold these kind of watches „exclusively“

Imo all of his dials of that kind have been manipulated.

A watch with honest patina looks much different

[swish77]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

I‘ve never liked those uniformly perfect orange-ish lume plots.
We‘ve had one seller from HK who sold these kind of watches „exclusively“

Imo all of his dials of that kind have been manipulated.

A watch with honest patina looks much different

The problem is that there are indeed vintage Rolexes with original lume that turns dark yellow to orange, and are completely uniform, down to the bezel insert pearl in some cases. So, we can't just dismiss those watches because the bad guys are faking them to look similar.

And that is the challenge, to determine when a dial has been doctored and when it's original. Nothing new in the vintage Rolex world, weeding out the bad watches.

Here's my 1665 that has original heavily patina'd lume and is completely uniform. They're out there.

[mignonp13]

Originally Posted by swish77

The problem is that there are indeed vintage Rolexes with original lume that turns dark yellow to orange, and are completely uniform, down to the bezel insert pearl in some cases. So, we can't just dismiss those watches because the bad guys are faking them to look similar.

And that is the challenge, to determine when a dial has been doctored and when it's original. Nothing new in the vintage Rolex world, weeding out the bad watches.

Here's my 1665 that has original heavily patina'd lume and is completely uniform. They're out there.

Problem is not only lumes on this dial... writings are completely off too.


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