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Cribbs · 2 March 2021, 06:55 PM

I have just heard that a Manager of an authorised dealer in the North West of England has been fired for 'bumping' people up the list for Rolex sports models.

Anyone have any information

al1786 · 2 March 2021, 07:05 PM

Paul Thorpe posted about this yesterday.

https://youtu.be/7k28pI3MFUc

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winst · 2 March 2021, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by al1786

Paul Thorpe posted about this yesterday.

https://youtu.be/7k28pI3MFUc

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Have just watched the video - thanks for that. Yes, as I suspected it wasn’t for moving someone up ‘the list’ but for how they offered to facilitate it a cash exchange.

peterskinner · 2 March 2021, 09:14 PM

Paul Thorpe is someone you can take or leave. I certainly wouldn’t have much confidence in this story.

AlanH · 2 March 2021, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by peterskinner

Paul Thorpe is someone you can take or leave. I certainly wouldn’t have much confidence in this story.

Paul Thorpe told us there would be a price increase in January.

vh2k · 3 March 2021, 01:31 AM

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Paul Thorpe told us there would be a price increase in January.

Indeed, he did. And it was so obvious there was no factual basis for the rumor. Now, he is guessing it will be in April. Even a broken watch is right twice a day!

padi56 · 3 March 2021, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by peterskinner

Paul Thorpe is someone you can take or leave. I certainly wouldn’t have much confidence in this story.

Have to agree 100% on that one.

Andad · 4 March 2021, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree 100% on that one.

That would be 200% for me Peter.

dauster · 3 March 2021, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by al1786

Paul Thorpe posted about this yesterday.

https://youtu.be/7k28pI3MFUc

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Lol seems like a nice guy but now I understand the used car salesman comments... I have to agree with a lot of people here that a lot of these people on YouTube do not do the high end watches justice at least in terms of appearance... some strange characters in the luxury watch world on YouTube these days.

Macnavara · 3 March 2021, 04:18 PM

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Lol seems like a nice guy but now I understand the used car salesman comments... I have to agree with a lot of people here that a lot of these people on YouTube do not do the high end watches justice at least in terms of appearance... some strange characters in the luxury watch world on YouTube these days.

Perhaps this is the very sort of people that buy Rolex these days.....I worked at an AD 30 yrs ago and people would get dressed up to visit us....those days are long gone

winst · 2 March 2021, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cribbs

I have just heard that a Manager of an authorised dealer in the North West of England has been fired for 'bumping' people up the list for Rolex sports models.

Anyone have any information

As has been discussed many times before, i’m not sure ‘the list’ is an actual real rigid mechanism but more a list of names of people who have expressed an interest to the AD. I got my Explorer relatively quickly when someone who had asked for one a long time before me decided to pass on it. I think it would be more likely that someone would be sacked not for moving people a few places up the list but more how they offered to move them up the list.

Computantis · 7 March 2021, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by winst

As has been discussed many times before, i’m not sure ‘the list’ is an actual real rigid mechanism but more a list of names of people who have expressed an interest to the AD. I got my Explorer relatively quickly when someone who had asked for one a long time before me decided to pass on it. I think it would be more likely that someone would be sacked not for moving people a few places up the list but more how they offered to move them up the list.

At my local AD they call it a "inquiry of interest" or some jargon like that. The word "list" seems to be specifically avoided every time I pop in to check things out.

Computantis

AG23 · 2 March 2021, 07:13 PM

There has to be more to the story...

Andad · 2 March 2021, 07:17 PM

Isn’t the manager the one who sets the pecking order?

For $$$’s.

GB-man · 2 March 2021, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Andad

Isn’t the manager the one who sets the pecking order?

For $$$’s.

Was going to say so he was doing his job

ZOOK · 3 March 2021, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Andad

Isn’t the manager the one who sets the pecking order?

For $$$’s.

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Was going to say so he was doing his job

Maybe the owner wants to make those decision$$$$$$.

Harry-57 · 2 March 2021, 09:27 PM

If the storyline is that an AD manager was fired for revising a waiting list, either the teller is talking crap or AD managers are getting fired by the score every day. I wonder which it could possibly be?

Bloke does something dodgy and gets fired. I've never heard that before. I expect there'll be a newsflash on the telly any minute. Will we all remember where we were and what we were doing on this fateful day?

BillA · 2 March 2021, 09:48 PM

He should be tarred and feathered.

1William · 2 March 2021, 10:20 PM

I suspect there is more to this story but you never know.

Becweb · 2 March 2021, 11:09 PM

So ADs managers selling to greys (which means 100% of all ADs) should all be fired right away?

winst · 2 March 2021, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Becweb

So ADs managers selling to greys (which means 100% of all ADs) should all be fired right away?

Did you watch the video - the guy was allegedly asking for a cash bribe to sell the watches. Yes that definitely deserves to be sacked in my book!

ArtNouveau · 3 March 2021, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Becweb

So ADs managers selling to greys (which means 100% of all ADs) should all be fired right away?

Sigh...prove it. The manager of my AD gives some direction I’m sure but she does not micromanage the SA’s there nor does the store “sell out the back door.”
They don’t need to, I’ve been told by two sources that they are the third highest volume Rolex dealer in the US, no reason to do shady things to risk killing the cash cow.

TswaneNguni · 3 March 2021, 02:52 AM

"The TRF Daily Tabloid News " ...

Robert Bruce · 3 March 2021, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Becweb

So ADs managers selling to greys (which means 100% of all ADs) should all be fired right away?

Yes. Ethics count.

Becweb · 3 March 2021, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Becweb

So ADs managers selling to greys (which means 100% of all ADs) should all be fired right away?

Regardless whether the manager was paid extra or not, giving preferential treatment or "bumping" people up the list should get the manager fired unless specifically written in the Rolex policies for ADs

"Developing a relationship" including receiving gifts from customers is, to me, quite similar to being bribed to get bumped up the list.

That's my own opinion, and I strongly believe 100% of ADs give preferential treatments to VIP, regardless what the definition of VIP is in their eyes.

vh2k · 3 March 2021, 11:05 PM

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Regardless whether the manager was paid extra or not, giving preferential treatment or "bumping" people up the list should get the manager fired unless specifically written in the Rolex policies for ADs.

This happens every single day at every single AD. Nothing wrong with it and certainly nothing for which an employee should be fired.

It’s literally the manager’s job to treat their best clients well and ensure prospects celebrating time-based milestones aren’t disappointed.

Becweb · 4 March 2021, 12:54 AM

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This happens every single day at every single AD. Nothing wrong with it and certainly nothing for which an employee should be fired.

It’s literally the manager’s job to treat their best clients well and ensure prospects celebrating time-based milestones aren’t disappointed.

Precisely, so nothing wrong with buying your way up the "list" either - Rolex shouldn't care, it's not like the manager sold the watch at a higher price than MSRP.

DGP · 3 March 2021, 01:24 AM

Seems to be all hearsay. Only interesting if there is some proof. Otherwise just another story by people that can’t get what they want.

Flintstone · 3 March 2021, 03:37 AM

....who cares

Jack T · 3 March 2021, 03:43 AM

After reading this and scores of other issues with AD’s around the world, do people still think Rolex wants to get in to the retail watch business???

2 March 2021, 06:55 PM	#1
Cribbs "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: York Posts: 7	Rolex AD Manager fired I have just heard that a Manager of an authorised dealer in the North West of England has been fired for 'bumping' people up the list for Rolex sports models. Anyone have any information

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2 March 2021, 09:14 PM	#4
peterskinner "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: East Sussex U Posts: 1,351	Paul Thorpe is someone you can take or leave. I certainly wouldn’t have much confidence in this story.

2 March 2021, 07:13 PM	#13
AG23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Real Name: Al Location: Australia Posts: 341	There has to be more to the story...

2 March 2021, 09:27 PM	#17
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,669	If the storyline is that an AD manager was fired for revising a waiting list, either the teller is talking crap or AD managers are getting fired by the score every day. I wonder which it could possibly be? Bloke does something dodgy and gets fired. I've never heard that before. I expect there'll be a newsflash on the telly any minute. Will we all remember where we were and what we were doing on this fateful day?

2 March 2021, 09:48 PM	#18
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,877	He should be tarred and feathered.

2 March 2021, 10:20 PM	#19
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,764	I suspect there is more to this story but you never know.

2 March 2021, 11:09 PM	#20
Becweb Banned Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: - Posts: 407	So ADs managers selling to greys (which means 100% of all ADs) should all be fired right away?

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3 March 2021, 01:24 AM	#28
DGP "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: UK Posts: 122	Seems to be all hearsay. Only interesting if there is some proof. Otherwise just another story by people that can’t get what they want.

3 March 2021, 03:37 AM	#29
Flintstone "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New York Posts: 634	....who cares

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