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Thines · 12 April 2021, 10:51 AM

I noticed on the new Explorer, Rolex changed the position of "Explorer" from the lower portion of the dial back to upper portion. From a graphic design stand point I think it make the dial look off balance, top heavy and crowded. And it's not in sync with most of the sports line (e.g. GMT II, Submariner, Yacht-Master...etc). Also it obstructs the word "Explorer" at the most perfect time...10:10:31!

I will be holding on to my 214270 Mk2. What do you guys and gals think?

daysky1 · 12 April 2021, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Thines

I noticed on the new Explorer, Rolex changed the position of "Explorer" from the lower portion of the dial back to upper portion. From a graphic design stand point I think it make the dial look off balance, top heavy and crowded. And it's not in sync with most of the sports line (e.g. GMT II, Submariner, Yacht-Master...etc). Also it obstructs the word "Explorer" at the most perfect time...10:10:31!

I will be holding on to my 214270 Mk2. What do you guys and gals think?

liberalclown · 12 April 2021, 10:55 AM

I like the "Explorer" on the top for the 36mm and bottom for the 39mm. 39 has a bigger gap so it balances, but 36 with 2 line at the bottom looks better.

Avs Fan · 12 April 2021, 10:58 AM

Apart from my own tastes, I know nothing about graphic design. I would say the previous version on the right looks better and more balanced.

slide13 · 12 April 2021, 11:10 AM

Explorer at the top is how it was done originally so is historically correct, but I agree the dial looks much better balanced with it on the bottom. Just another reason I absolutely love my 214270 Mk2.

Pauln · 12 April 2021, 11:21 AM

I like it on the top, same as on my 114270.

brandrea · 12 April 2021, 11:21 AM

I wish they did away with the Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified on all their watches

csaltphoto · 12 April 2021, 11:56 AM

I agree it feels top-heavy and crowded although in practice I barely notice the type on my watch dial.

brucethemanlee · 12 April 2021, 12:21 PM

too top heavy now

Tricolore66 · 12 April 2021, 12:26 PM

They should have made "Explorer" and the tip of the second hand red, so the grey dealers could get $26,000 for them!

904VT · 12 April 2021, 01:01 PM

I agree. I prefer the Explorer logo on the prior bottom

Robert Bruce · 12 April 2021, 01:06 PM

The old way was ten times better.

Frank McKay · 12 April 2021, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Bruce

The old way was ten times better.

Agreed. The new watch looks askew, don’t like it.

Heady Topper · 12 April 2021, 01:21 PM

As another graphic designer, I couldn’t agree more. The 214270 MkII is flawless

Thines · 12 April 2021, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Heady Topper

As another graphic designer, I couldn’t agree more. The 214270 MkII is flawless

I’m sure they have some excellent graphic designers in Switzerland. I mean Rolex Magazine is beautifully done, the design work in it is immaculate. I wish Rolex would go with a less is more approach. The 2-liner Sub dial is sublime!

Maxy · 12 April 2021, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thines

I’m sure they have some excellent graphic designers in Switzerland. I mean Rolex Magazine is beautifully done, the design work in it is immaculate. I wish Rolex would go with a less is more approach. The 2-liner Sub dial is sublime!

Explorer 36 and lower always had name on the top and when they made 39mm version (both MK1 & MK2) they moved it to bottom. Now they made again 36mm and moved at the top to differentiate between models.

I agree bottom is perfect and more balanced. I mentioned earlier that new Explorer II text (with 42mm dial) should have been moved to bottom as well - firstly its better and then differentiate from previous version of Explorer II.

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rusty427 · 12 April 2021, 01:30 PM

I agree too, plus I notice the font is smaller and thicker, which crowds it more.
The crown and the word ROLEX look off or too small to me as well.
I saw a new GMT Master II and it too had what looked like a small ROLEX font.
Though as csaltphoto said not notable in real life, especially with no glasses.

Alleycat · 12 April 2021, 04:33 PM

Agreed, glad I have a 214270. Not interested in a 36mm watch personally. The vertical spacing in those upper three lines irks me as well. Very crowded.

DCheeta · 12 April 2021, 05:27 PM

Another graphic designer, and I also like the balance better with the Explorer text on the bottom. But from a historical standpoint I like it better on top though, so I have internal strife.

RampageWatch · 12 April 2021, 05:46 PM

Am in graphics myself, and would agree the weighting and balance is pretty poor.
The ‘Explorer’ shld be down the bottom.
And the ‘Oyster Perpetual’ I think is a bit too close to Rolex.

I think l poor graphic design and poor font choices are rife in the watch business.

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joli160 · 12 April 2021, 06:07 PM

Don’t you understand the the Rolex grammar of design ?

rambo99 · 12 April 2021, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RampageWatch

Am in graphics myself, and would agree the weighting and balance is pretty poor.
The ‘Explorer’ shld be down the bottom.
And the ‘Oyster Perpetual’ I think is a bit too close to Rolex.

I think l poor graphic design and poor font choices are rife in the watch business.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

it would hurt the resale value dearly I think.

Thines · 13 April 2021, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rambo99

it would hurt the resale value dearly I think.

Or increase it.

Thines · 13 April 2021, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RampageWatch

Am in graphics myself, and would agree the weighting and balance is pretty poor.
The ‘Explorer’ shld be down the bottom.
And the ‘Oyster Perpetual’ I think is a bit too close to Rolex.

I think l poor graphic design and poor font choices are rife in the watch business.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I concur...I think the dial should just have the crown and Rolex on top. And just Explorer on the bottom of the dial...maybe in orange like the Explorer II. To add a slash of color. I’m going to do a mock-up!

rolexfanforlife · 12 April 2021, 07:42 PM

39 mm looks more balanced with it on bottom

1William · 12 April 2021, 09:26 PM

I like both dials.

PizzaAndCheesecake · 12 April 2021, 09:40 PM

I’ve never seen the need for having ‘oyster perpetual’ on the dial

Justinmg · 12 April 2021, 10:09 PM

I like that they went back to its origins. It’s perfect!

Thuilln · 13 April 2021, 02:49 AM

It’s in line with : the Datejust, the Day Date, the Milgauss, the Explorer II.
And it’s back to its original position. It all makes sense.

12 April 2021, 10:51 AM	#1
Thines "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Redlands CA Watch: Your Back! Posts: 135	From a Graphic Designer... I noticed on the new Explorer, Rolex changed the position of "Explorer" from the lower portion of the dial back to upper portion. From a graphic design stand point I think it make the dial look off balance, top heavy and crowded. And it's not in sync with most of the sports line (e.g. GMT II, Submariner, Yacht-Master...etc). Also it obstructs the word "Explorer" at the most perfect time...10:10:31! I will be holding on to my 214270 Mk2. What do you guys and gals think? Attached Images Last edited by Thines; 12 April 2021 at 10:53 AM.. Reason: Typo

12 April 2021, 06:07 PM	#21
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Thuilln "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Real Name: Nick Location: YUL Watch: 16570 Posts: 1,936	It’s in line with : the Datejust, the Day Date, the Milgauss, the Explorer II. And it’s back to its original position. It all makes sense. __________________ Nick _________________________________________ 14060M - 114200 - 114270 - 214270 - 16710BLRO - 16570 - 3570.50 - Cartier Tank Solo - Cartier Tank Française ‘Yearling’ - CWC Navy Diver

12 April 2021, 10:55 AM	#3
liberalclown "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Real Name: Jan Location: Earth Posts: 381	I like the "Explorer" on the top for the 36mm and bottom for the 39mm. 39 has a bigger gap so it balances, but 36 with 2 line at the bottom looks better.

12 April 2021, 10:58 AM	#4
Avs Fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,512	Apart from my own tastes, I know nothing about graphic design. I would say the previous version on the right looks better and more balanced.

12 April 2021, 11:10 AM	#5
slide13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Here Posts: 1,003	Explorer at the top is how it was done originally so is historically correct, but I agree the dial looks much better balanced with it on the bottom. Just another reason I absolutely love my 214270 Mk2.

12 April 2021, 11:21 AM	#6
Pauln "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Paul Location: Colorado Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,543	I like it on the top, same as on my 114270.

12 April 2021, 11:21 AM	#7
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,097	I wish they did away with the Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified on all their watches

12 April 2021, 11:56 AM	#8
csaltphoto "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: US Watch: sub Posts: 2,429	I agree it feels top-heavy and crowded although in practice I barely notice the type on my watch dial.

12 April 2021, 12:21 PM	#9
brucethemanlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: 1 of 13 Colonies Posts: 8,575	too top heavy now

12 April 2021, 12:26 PM	#10
Tricolore66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: USA Posts: 1,139	They should have made "Explorer" and the tip of the second hand red, so the grey dealers could get $26,000 for them!

12 April 2021, 01:01 PM	#11
904VT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: All Rolex Posts: 7,024	I agree. I prefer the Explorer logo on the prior bottom

12 April 2021, 01:06 PM	#12
Robert Bruce Banned Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 244	The old way was ten times better.

12 April 2021, 01:21 PM	#14
Heady Topper Banned Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 321	As another graphic designer, I couldn’t agree more. The 214270 MkII is flawless

12 April 2021, 01:30 PM	#17
rusty427 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 204	I agree too, plus I notice the font is smaller and thicker, which crowds it more. The crown and the word ROLEX look off or too small to me as well. I saw a new GMT Master II and it too had what looked like a small ROLEX font. Though as csaltphoto said not notable in real life, especially with no glasses.

12 April 2021, 04:33 PM	#18
Alleycat "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: CA Posts: 4	Agreed, glad I have a 214270. Not interested in a 36mm watch personally. The vertical spacing in those upper three lines irks me as well. Very crowded.

12 April 2021, 05:27 PM	#19
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,181	Another graphic designer, and I also like the balance better with the Explorer text on the bottom. But from a historical standpoint I like it better on top though, so I have internal strife.

12 April 2021, 05:46 PM	#20
RampageWatch Banned Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: USA Posts: 241	Am in graphics myself, and would agree the weighting and balance is pretty poor. The ‘Explorer’ shld be down the bottom. And the ‘Oyster Perpetual’ I think is a bit too close to Rolex. I think l poor graphic design and poor font choices are rife in the watch business. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 April 2021, 09:26 PM	#26
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,776	I like both dials.

12 April 2021, 09:40 PM	#27
PizzaAndCheesecake "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Real Name: Rob Location: Essex Posts: 26	I’ve never seen the need for having ‘oyster perpetual’ on the dial

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