Rehaut engraving misalignment?

[thorm]

Is it common to have misalignment of the rehaut engraving? I had a discussion with a friend who claimed it was a common QC issue, ehich sounded strange to me since I was under the impression that this is really not a thing that happens, or at least should not often happen, as I've seen experts opine that these misalignments really don't happen. But what do I know... So I ask in here, is it common problem or not?😄

[ronricks]

It's the dial that is off not the actual engraving. Not an issue that nobody will ever notice who doesn't have a loupe.

[blada4life]

if its slight im sure it happens, but if it doesnt not align it is a red flag for me to be very careful. most of the time the fakes dont align.

[SN13]

My engraved Rolex Rehauts all align pretty much perfectly to 12 with the little crown engraving.

the X in Rolex will hit each marker from 1 - 5.

The R in Rolex will hit each marker from 7 - 11

Each of my serial numbers falls between minute marks starting between 26/27 and ending between 33/34 hashes.

If it's "Common" I'd expect it to happen ALOT. but I've never seen one misaligned in person.

[Robf52]

Originally Posted by ronricks

It's the dial that is off not the actual engraving. Not an issue that nobody will ever notice who doesn't have a loupe.

This.

[joli160]

There is a little play when installing the dial.
Quite often it appears to be off centre a little. Doesn’t matter, watch works just as good.

[Jack T]

Originally Posted by SN13

My engraved Rolex Rehauts all align pretty much perfectly to 12 with the little crown engraving.

the X in Rolex will hit each marker from 1 - 5.

The R in Rolex will hit each marker from 7 - 11

Each of my serial numbers falls between minute marks starting between 26/27 and ending between 33/34 hashes.

If it's "Common" I'd expect it to happen ALOT. but I've never seen one misaligned in person.

Hadn’t looked closely before but my GMT II lines the same way, crown dead on at 00:00 and all others as you described.

[thorm]

Mine is aligned perfectly all around, at least :)

[padi56]

Originally Posted by ronricks

It's the dial that is off not the actual engraving. Not an issue that nobody will ever notice who doesn't have a loupe.

That's correct the Rolex Rolex branding on the rehaut is on the case so cannot move.The dial has a very very very very tiny amount of lateral movement when attached to the movement top plate but we are talking about less than 1mm.And correct not a issue only to those that have perhaps the deadly {LM} loupe mania, or the {RAPS} Rolex alignment point syndrome.

[SN13]

And, by the way.... if the dial/rehaut misalign by less than 1/4 of one minute, (1.5 degrees rotation) or two beats of the second hand (8 beats per second), then I wouldnt worry.

[Goose 104]

My YM and SJ seem ok but it wouldn't bother me much if it was a little out.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by joli160

There is a little play when installing the dial.

Quite often it appears to be off centre a little. Doesn’t matter, watch works just as good.

This!


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[Krash]

Slightly off topic, but related...

I always thought the bezel on my Submariner was slightly misaligned with the dial at the 12:00 position. However, every time I take a close up photo, it looks perfectly aligned.

It depends on the angle you look at it from. It often looks misaligned, but reality is that it’s an optical illusion. I don’t spend any time worrying about it anymore.

[Rori]

Originally Posted by blada4life

if its slight im sure it happens, but if it doesnt not align it is a red flag for me to be very careful. most of the time the fakes dont align.

This.
Mine however. and every Rolex I’ve tried so far, are perfectly aligned.


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[iTreelex]

One advice that will make life much enjoyable: put the loupe down and wear the watch

[Pauln]

Mine have always been right on.



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[WiseRat]

So if the rehaut misalignment is actually the dial that is misaligned, does that imply it can be corrected by a watchmaker? (Loosen the movement holder screws, adjust alignment, tighten screws?) Seems to be an easy fix at the time of service if so.

[LibertyTree]

Originally Posted by WiseRat

So if the rehaut misalignment is actually the dial that is misaligned, does that imply it can be corrected by a watchmaker? (Loosen the movement holder screws, adjust alignment, tighten screws?) Seems to be an easy fix at the time of service if so.

Would like to know this as well.

I find it funny that some keep saying that you need to pull out a loupe to see a misaligned dial/rehaut, but its extremely visible to the naked eyes from a foot away. I bought mine brand new from my AD and is misaligned, I've also seen others in person and it's the first thing I see. My OCD cannot stand it!

[watchluvr4ever]

Shouldn’t be a dial misalignment(not sure how that is possible), but perhaps the movement retaining screws were tightened down before the movement was aligned 100% properly. This would also be bad for your winding stem since it isn’t exactly straight out at 3 o’clock. Do you notice any friction when unscrewing your crown and pulling the winding stem out, pushing the stem back in or during winding? Should be an easy fix for a Watchmaker.

[thesharkfactor]

My 116610LN was not centred. Neither was the DW, it would be high justified between 1-16.. however 17-31 was centred(!?). My AD said it was within tolerance.. I just lived with it.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by LibertyTree

Would like to know this as well.

I find it funny that some keep saying that you need to pull out a loupe to see a misaligned dial/rehaut, but its extremely visible to the naked eyes from a foot away. I bought mine brand new from my AD and is misaligned, I've also seen others in person and it's the first thing I see. My OCD cannot stand it!

Everything has a tolerance/variance that is deemed acceptable.

The dial paint varies, its attachment to the movement has a tolerance, the movement attachment to the case has a variance.

[LibertyTree]

Originally Posted by Tools

Everything has a tolerance/variance that is deemed acceptable.

The dial paint varies, its attachment to the movement has a tolerance, the movement attachment to the case has a variance.

Totally understand that and I know it's within Rolex tolerance. I find it funny my friend has a top of the line REP and from the naked eye looks better then my GEN. If I used a loupe on them then that would separate my GEN from his REP easily.

It's just frustrating you pay 11k for a watch and something simple as that isn't addressed. I have cheaper Omega's, Breitlings, and Longines that have better quality control. Like I said, this is just my OCD and me venting.

[LibertyTree]

Originally Posted by watchluvr4ever

Shouldn’t be a dial misalignment(not sure how that is possible), but perhaps the movement retaining screws were tightened down before the movement was aligned 100% properly. This would also be bad for your winding stem since it isn’t exactly straight out at 3 o’clock. Do you notice any friction when unscrewing your crown and pulling the winding stem out, pushing the stem back in or during winding? Should be an easy fix for a Watchmaker.

No friction at all. From what I've read it's a known issue with the dial being misaligned (but within tolerances) and not the rehaut engravings. There's a way to adjust it but I haven't read/seen what they do exactly.

[Ale93am]

My sub was too ringht

[BobbyB]

It’s not the rehaut it’s the dial that’s misaligned. Common problem on the No date models. When the date is on the dial it’s much easier to align from what a watch maker told me. This was the alignment on my old 40mm sub that I no longer own


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[CHRONOLEX]

Watchmaker told me that the new 41 has different dial feet or something which makes it hard for these to be adjusted. But I have noticed many are misaligned, and I've also noticed many dates are not centered in the cyclops - or the cyclops is crooked. Dunno

[puma1552]

Originally Posted by BobbyB

It’s not the rehaut it’s the dial that’s misaligned. Common problem on the No date models. When the date is on the dial it’s much easier to align from what a watch maker told me. This was the alignment on my old 40mm sub that I no longer own


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This would bother me, full stop.

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by BobbyB

It’s not the rehaut it’s the dial that’s misaligned. Common problem on the No date models. When the date is on the dial it’s much easier to align from what a watch maker told me. This was the alignment on my old 40mm sub that I no longer own


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Whoa. Way out of whack.


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[1secondslow]

Originally Posted by BobbyB

It’s not the rehaut it’s the dial that’s misaligned. Common problem on the No date models. When the date is on the dial it’s much easier to align from what a watch maker told me. This was the alignment on my old 40mm sub that I no longer own


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I'm not sure if it is the dial that's misaligned here. The R O L E X letters on the right side of the dial seem to align ok, but all the letters on the left and the coronet at 12 all look off. If the dial was moved, then one side would still be off. I've seen other examples like this too, where one half of the dial is aligned and the other half isn't. Leads me to believe that the actual engraving is off somehow.

[BobbyB]

Originally Posted by 1secondslow

I'm not sure if it is the dial that's misaligned here. The R O L E X letters on the right side of the dial seem to align ok, but all the letters on the left and the coronet at 12 all look off. If the dial was moved, then one side would still be off. I've seen other examples like this too, where one half of the dial is aligned and the other half isn't. Leads me to believe that the actual engraving is off somehow.

Funny that you say that. So it ended up bothering me so much that I took it to my local rolex service center to get the dial realigned. All that ended up happening was the dial being slightly more aligned and the watch maker leaving a huge gouge on one of the lugs. Again I ended up selling the watch so it’s not a big deal now. But a good lesson to learn. Make sure to check the alignment before buying a watch


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