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swisslivingame · 20 May 2009, 03:30 AM

Hello, I am new here ! First and foremost, HELLO !
I would like to find the expert opinion of all you afficionados on the New Milgauss. I have read before that is very rare and that the newest incarnation of the rare classic with the green saphire version, is ultra rare, so much that you should snatch it up, if you see one, as there is like a year of two waiting period to order one.

Is this too much hype and emotion??
Another thing...with the present financial crises, wouldn't there be a glut with even the coveted Milgauss as Rolex has recently shown a 40% plunge in profits. I live in Switzerland and can tell you this is Rolex's present predicament.

Today: as I walked past a watch store, I saw a green Milgauss for 6,900 swiss francs ($ 6,154.23).

It is worth the sacrifice to get it ? Sorry if I sound naive and thanks for your thoughtful advice !

Best wishes, Swisslivingame

pz93c · 20 May 2009, 03:50 AM

This thread talks about the rarity of the GV.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=80056

swisslivingame · 20 May 2009, 03:59 AM

Thanks Pz93c, but not yet convinced of anything !

swisslivingame

Balboa · 20 May 2009, 08:21 AM

Hi Swisslivinggame and welcome from a near newbie-

One thing I did not read in your post was how much you love the GV and how just seeing it puts a smile on your face. I believe that is a very important factor and one that none of us here can begin to determine.

You read that it is very rare and "the newest incarnation of the rare classic." Maybe, but no one really knows. Are they hard to get in the current marketplace? Yes. Does that it any way guarantee that they will remain hard to get or are destined to become a "classic"? NO!

Supply could catch up with demand very quickly. Rolex could make 50,000 of them in the next year if they desire. We do not know and have no way to find out.

If you love the watch and want it on your wrist right now then it is worth the money. If you are more interested in speculation on the future desirability of the GV, then I think you are making an expensive guess.

Short supply or not, I think over $6,100 U.S. is a high price for that watch, but I am not in love with that particular model. My head says for $6,000 there are a number of other Rolex choices that would move me.

As always, it is your call based on your personal taste and on your wallet.

Mark

Welshwatchman · 20 May 2009, 08:38 AM

You've already answered your own question by your tone.

Keep your $6k until you find a watch that you cannot take your eyes off.

karmatp · 20 May 2009, 08:47 AM

They are not rare anymore, every Ad I have been in the past year has one. Don't waste your money on hype, if you don't love the watch, why would you buy one.

G M · 20 May 2009, 09:14 AM

You should love it, not just like it. Thats about the best advice, otherwise buyers remorse will eat your brain!

Imtiaz · 20 May 2009, 09:59 AM

swisslivingame

First the GV is not rare at all. There are plenty around. When they first came out 2 years ago the price went up to $20K. People who purchased at that time thought the watch was rare.

No production watch is rare while in production. The rare factor comes into play after production stops.

The GV was a slow starter as Rolex had problems with cracking green crystals and halted production. Now the problem has been solve and full production is on.

In Japan, the GV is sold slightly below MSRP.

wang · 20 May 2009, 10:22 AM

gv is coming !!!

Z-Sub · 20 May 2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wang

gv is coming !!!

I thought from you other post you've already got it! Congratulations

Z-Sub · 20 May 2009, 10:47 AM

Agree with other posts. If you're buying it only because it is less common and not because you enjoy the watch then there will be many more better ones out there for the money.

swisslivingame · 20 May 2009, 03:28 PM

Thanks for the thoughtful remarks. I actually love the green one but felt pushed to get it now due to it's so called rarity.
That makes me think, does anyone how long the Milgauss will be around until ? Anyone have a clue when they could end this limited production model ?
It actually took me a year to see a green one in the store where I bought my Air-King !
Cheers, Swisslivingame

Singslinger · 20 May 2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swisslivingame

Thanks for the thoughtful remarks. I actually love the green one but felt pushed to get it now due to it's so called rarity.
That makes me think, does anyone how long the Milgauss will be around until ? Anyone have a clue when they could end this limited production model ?
It actually took me a year to see a green one in the store where I bought my Air-King !
Cheers, Swisslivingame

First and most importantly, the Milgauss GV is not a limited production model, and neither are the ordinary black or white dial versions. The GV is an anniversary edition, nothing more, and should be in production for the forseeable future.

Second, the rarity factor that contributed to a high premium when the watch was first issued has now gone, and ADs in Singapore (and I believe elsewhere) are now selling the watch at the list price, or perhaps even at a discount. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the initial rarity factor was artificially created by dealers hoping to con the public into believing the watch was rare, thereby making everyone pay more.

Third, good luck! Since you say you love the watch, then go for it and if you do, keep us informed! It's a buyer's market at the moment, so you might be able to negotiate a decent discount off the list price

C. Davidson · 20 May 2009, 04:55 PM

Yes, you should buy it. Its a great Rolex to add to your growing collection. Post some pics when you get it.

The Second · 20 May 2009, 05:17 PM

I like the white dial!

swisslivingame · 22 May 2009, 12:13 AM

Thanks Singslinger, great info.

Singslinger · 22 May 2009, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swisslivingame

Thanks Singslinger, great info.

No problem, glad to be of help.

pckau · 22 May 2009, 12:35 AM

I think this is a great watch. I bought one in HK at MSRP (no discount). Among the ones that I have SS Daytona, GMT Master IIc, Explorer II, the GV is currently rank one in terms of my favorite.
But it doesn't seem like it is rare anymore. My colleague also just got one from the same AD in hk (again, no discount). ADs in HK dont put the GVs on display. But if you know the AD well enough (and have bought other watches from the AD before), they will probably try to look for one for you.

But you should get it, it looks NICE...

diablojota · 22 May 2009, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swisslivingame

Another thing...with the present financial crises, wouldn't there be a glut with even the coveted Milgauss as Rolex has recently shown a 40% plunge in profits. I live in Switzerland and can tell you this is Rolex's present predicament.

Herzlich Willkommen!

Eine frage. Wo haben Sie das gehoert wegen den Umsatz von Rolex? Gibt es was zu lesen oder? Ich bedanke mich!

And the Milgauss GV, not so uncommon. Find the watch that you like the best!

swisslivingame · 23 May 2009, 12:47 AM

I week later: Nice to still see it in the window actually, screaming for me to get it ! It's nice to know though there's no more stress factor over a perceived rarity.

I just love Rolex without the cyclops date (though as I become more and more a Rolex guy, I'm liking it more and more!). The green, the black and the orange, rocks !
My only Rolex now is the Air-King (no date) but now I can wait a little longet for the GV.
Looking at Rolex pricing the GV price is pretty good.

Z-Sub · 23 May 2009, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swisslivingame

I week later: Nice to still see it in the window actually, screaming for me to get it ! It's nice to know though there's no more stress factor over a perceived rarity.

I just love Rolex without the cyclops date (though as I become more and more a Rolex guy, I'm liking it more and more!). The green, the black and the orange, rocks !
My only Rolex now is the Air-King (no date) but now I can wait a little longet for the GV.
Looking at Rolex pricing the GV price is pretty good.

how about a SD4000 without the cyclops and still has the date? I love it.

swisslivingame · 23 May 2009, 01:00 AM

Hi Diablojota,
Heard about the 40% out here, from a friends with contacts in the industry. All the brands are lower though..
In fact, no 5-7 % price hike this year (like they often do).
BTW: I am told that Rolex is building a new site in Biel (making it the 3rd one).
swisslivingame

swisslivingame · 23 May 2009, 01:01 AM

Hi Diablojota,
Heard about the 40% out here, from a friends with contacts in the industry. All the brands are lower though..
In fact, no 5-7 % price hike this year (like they often do).
BTW: I am told that Rolex is building a new site in Biel (making it the 3rd one).
swisslivingame

flyback · 23 May 2009, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swisslivingame

Hi Diablojota,
Heard about the 40% out here, from a friends with contacts in the industry. All the brands are lower though..
In fact, no 5-7 % price hike this year (like they often do).
BTW: I am told that Rolex is building a new site in Biel (making it the 3rd one).
swisslivingame

40% seems to be the magic number for a lot of industries in this downturn. For a mass manufacturer of expensive luxuries like Rolex, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

swisslivingame · 23 May 2009, 03:52 AM

Wow, now that's a watch !! Nice !

swisslivingame · 25 May 2009, 06:09 AM

Roger Federer sports the GV on Rolex's homepage, put that thing through a workout ! ! :-)

http://www.rolex.com/en/index.jsp#/en/index

ASubStartedItAll · 29 May 2009, 09:31 AM

I, literally, just received my Milguass GV from my AD (he's in NJ)...the geen crystal is what sold me on it (the contrast with the orange bolt is really fantastic)....the only problem I have with it is I have to go get it sized so I am forced to stare at it until then...the horror. Seriously, I love unique looking watches (especially from a color and size (and shape) perspective...think green sub, pepsi gmt, panerai's, old school chronos) and the GV delivers...that's just my opinion.

csx7034 · 28 June 2009, 06:21 AM

Hello,

My first post! I purchased my first Rolex (SS Sub) in 1987 with my first bonus check. I bought my wife steel GMT Master II a few years ago along with a ladies watch a number of years earlier. I was in las vegas this week and went to the AD and looked at the watches they had, have always wanted a black face steel daytona, they did not have one. But he pulled out of the back the GV. I fell in love with it, old school look with the green did it for me. Paid the sticker with no discount. So far I am very happy.

Allan

rodo · 28 June 2009, 07:19 AM

i went to an AD by my house today, they had one sitting in the case

James.uk · 28 June 2009, 07:34 AM

I like them but dont buy it as an investment.
They were impossible to get in the UK but now they are reasonably easy...and i have been offered new in box at under list [£600 under].

Also even ebay in the UK has Black and white dial going £1000 below list.

If you like it buy it...but i think they might well loose more value before they pick up.

Best,
James.

20 May 2009, 03:30 AM	#1
swisslivingame Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 33	New Milgauss How Rare, worth the sacrifice? Hello, I am new here ! First and foremost, HELLO ! I would like to find the expert opinion of all you afficionados on the New Milgauss. I have read before that is very rare and that the newest incarnation of the rare classic with the green saphire version, is ultra rare, so much that you should snatch it up, if you see one, as there is like a year of two waiting period to order one. Is this too much hype and emotion?? Another thing...with the present financial crises, wouldn't there be a glut with even the coveted Milgauss as Rolex has recently shown a 40% plunge in profits. I live in Switzerland and can tell you this is Rolex's present predicament. Today: as I walked past a watch store, I saw a green Milgauss for 6,900 swiss francs ($ 6,154.23). It is worth the sacrifice to get it ? Sorry if I sound naive and thanks for your thoughtful advice ! Best wishes, Swisslivingame

20 May 2009, 08:38 AM	#5
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	You've already answered your own question by your tone. Keep your $6k until you find a watch that you cannot take your eyes off. __________________ ..33

20 May 2009, 08:47 AM	#6
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	They are not rare anymore, every Ad I have been in the past year has one. Don't waste your money on hype, if you don't love the watch, why would you buy one. __________________ My grails:

20 May 2009, 10:47 AM	#11
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	Agree with other posts. If you're buying it only because it is less common and not because you enjoy the watch then there will be many more better ones out there for the money. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

20 May 2009, 04:55 PM	#14
C. Davidson "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: WXSW Watch: GMT (116710) Posts: 2,723	Yes, you should buy it. Its a great Rolex to add to your growing collection. Post some pics when you get it. __________________ -Cheers, Chris #15,634 "The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge; the ears of the wise seek it out."

20 May 2009, 03:50 AM	#2
pz93c "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 2,776	This thread talks about the rarity of the GV. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=80056

20 May 2009, 03:59 AM	#3
swisslivingame Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 33	Thanks Pz93c, but not yet convinced of anything ! swisslivingame

20 May 2009, 08:21 AM	#4
Balboa Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SoCal OC U.S.A. Posts: 342	Hi Swisslivinggame and welcome from a near newbie- One thing I did not read in your post was how much you love the GV and how just seeing it puts a smile on your face. I believe that is a very important factor and one that none of us here can begin to determine. You read that it is very rare and "the newest incarnation of the rare classic." Maybe, but no one really knows. Are they hard to get in the current marketplace? Yes. Does that it any way guarantee that they will remain hard to get or are destined to become a "classic"? NO! Supply could catch up with demand very quickly. Rolex could make 50,000 of them in the next year if they desire. We do not know and have no way to find out. If you love the watch and want it on your wrist right now then it is worth the money. If you are more interested in speculation on the future desirability of the GV, then I think you are making an expensive guess. Short supply or not, I think over $6,100 U.S. is a high price for that watch, but I am not in love with that particular model. My head says for $6,000 there are a number of other Rolex choices that would move me. As always, it is your call based on your personal taste and on your wallet. Mark

20 May 2009, 09:14 AM	#7
G M "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Garrett Location: Irvine, CA Watch: 16610 Posts: 130	You should love it, not just like it. Thats about the best advice, otherwise buyers remorse will eat your brain!

20 May 2009, 09:59 AM	#8
Imtiaz Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: De Location: Tokyo Watch: Daytona, Sub, DS, Posts: 1,046	swisslivingame First the GV is not rare at all. There are plenty around. When they first came out 2 years ago the price went up to $20K. People who purchased at that time thought the watch was rare. No production watch is rare while in production. The rare factor comes into play after production stops. The GV was a slow starter as Rolex had problems with cracking green crystals and halted production. Now the problem has been solve and full production is on. In Japan, the GV is sold slightly below MSRP.

20 May 2009, 10:22 AM	#9
wang Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: 2 datejust Location: los angeles now Watch: no gv said to say Posts: 127	gv is coming !!!

20 May 2009, 03:28 PM	#12
swisslivingame Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 33	Thanks for the thoughtful remarks. I actually love the green one but felt pushed to get it now due to it's so called rarity. That makes me think, does anyone how long the Milgauss will be around until ? Anyone have a clue when they could end this limited production model ? It actually took me a year to see a green one in the store where I bought my Air-King ! Cheers, Swisslivingame

20 May 2009, 05:17 PM	#15
The Second Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lost Watch: Watchless(for now) Posts: 267	I like the white dial!

22 May 2009, 12:13 AM	#16
swisslivingame Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 33	Thanks Singslinger, great info.

22 May 2009, 12:35 AM	#18
pckau "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 4	I think this is a great watch. I bought one in HK at MSRP (no discount). Among the ones that I have SS Daytona, GMT Master IIc, Explorer II, the GV is currently rank one in terms of my favorite. But it doesn't seem like it is rare anymore. My colleague also just got one from the same AD in hk (again, no discount). ADs in HK dont put the GVs on display. But if you know the AD well enough (and have bought other watches from the AD before), they will probably try to look for one for you. But you should get it, it looks NICE...

23 May 2009, 12:47 AM	#20
swisslivingame Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 33	I week later: Nice to still see it in the window actually, screaming for me to get it ! It's nice to know though there's no more stress factor over a perceived rarity. I just love Rolex without the cyclops date (though as I become more and more a Rolex guy, I'm liking it more and more!). The green, the black and the orange, rocks ! My only Rolex now is the Air-King (no date) but now I can wait a little longet for the GV. Looking at Rolex pricing the GV price is pretty good.

23 May 2009, 01:00 AM	#22
swisslivingame Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 33	Hi Diablojota, Heard about the 40% out here, from a friends with contacts in the industry. All the brands are lower though.. In fact, no 5-7 % price hike this year (like they often do). BTW: I am told that Rolex is building a new site in Biel (making it the 3rd one). swisslivingame Last edited by swisslivingame; 23 May 2009 at 01:05 AM.. Reason: fotgot name

23 May 2009, 01:01 AM	#23
swisslivingame Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 33	Hi Diablojota, Heard about the 40% out here, from a friends with contacts in the industry. All the brands are lower though.. In fact, no 5-7 % price hike this year (like they often do). BTW: I am told that Rolex is building a new site in Biel (making it the 3rd one). swisslivingame

23 May 2009, 03:52 AM	#25
swisslivingame Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 33	Wow, now that's a watch !! Nice !

25 May 2009, 06:09 AM	#26
swisslivingame Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Switzerland Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 33	GV Fans, check this out: GV Aerobics, Swiss Style :-) ! Roger Federer sports the GV on Rolex's homepage, put that thing through a workout ! ! :-) http://www.rolex.com/en/index.jsp#/en/index

29 May 2009, 09:31 AM	#27
ASubStartedItAll "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY, NY Watch: Green Sub 16610LV Posts: 8	I, literally, just received my Milguass GV from my AD (he's in NJ)...the geen crystal is what sold me on it (the contrast with the orange bolt is really fantastic)....the only problem I have with it is I have to go get it sized so I am forced to stare at it until then...the horror. Seriously, I love unique looking watches (especially from a color and size (and shape) perspective...think green sub, pepsi gmt, panerai's, old school chronos) and the GV delivers...that's just my opinion.

28 June 2009, 06:21 AM	#28
csx7034 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ca Posts: 38	Hello, My first post! I purchased my first Rolex (SS Sub) in 1987 with my first bonus check. I bought my wife steel GMT Master II a few years ago along with a ladies watch a number of years earlier. I was in las vegas this week and went to the AD and looked at the watches they had, have always wanted a black face steel daytona, they did not have one. But he pulled out of the back the GV. I fell in love with it, old school look with the green did it for me. Paid the sticker with no discount. So far I am very happy. Allan

28 June 2009, 07:19 AM	#29
rodo "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 640	i went to an AD by my house today, they had one sitting in the case

28 June 2009, 07:34 AM	#30
James.uk "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: Rolex Sports Posts: 36	I like them but dont buy it as an investment. They were impossible to get in the UK but now they are reasonably easy...and i have been offered new in box at under list [£600 under]. Also even ebay in the UK has Black and white dial going £1000 below list. If you like it buy it...but i think they might well loose more value before they pick up. Best, James. __________________ Rolex sports watches.

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