Does the 126610LV look less bloated than the 120460?

[IR201]

I have the 120460 and am wondering if the LV will look smaller/less bloated on wrist due to the bezel color blocking the dial.

I am starting to feel Rolex really screwed up with the bigger bracelet and clasp on the 12 series subs.

It's less of an issue for me with the 126613LB because its broken up with the two tone, so thought maybe I would like the LV better than the LN versions.

Any experiences?

[JRell]

Originally Posted by IR201

I have the 120460 and am wondering if the LV will look smaller/less bloated on wrist due to the bezel color blocking the dial.

I am starting to feel Rolex really screwed up with the bigger bracelet and clasp on the 12 series subs.

It's less of an issue for me with the 126613LB because its broken up with the two tone, so thought maybe I would like the LV better than the LN versions.

Any experiences?

Had them all including the former 114060, current 124060 and the new bluesy. After comparing all only have the 124060. Rolex nailed it which is expected. The bracket feels more balanced. The dial is bigger, so without the date it is more obvious, but I personally like it because I like the sub for the clean dial. I think it is a plus for the new bluesy over the old.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by JRell

Had them all including the former 114060, current 124060 and the new bluesy. After comparing all only have the 124060. Rolex nailed it which is expected. The bracket feels more balanced. The dial is bigger, so without the date it is more obvious, but I personally like it because I like the sub for the clean dial. I think it is a plus for the new bluesy over the old.

Ah you moved on from the new bluesy already? I think I remember when you got it. Any particular reason?

I've had a bunch too, the 11 series in date, no date, blusey and hulk, the 12 series now in bluesy and no date, the SD4K, the SD43, the JC D-blue, the 14060, the 16610 and the 16600.

I had really high hopes for the 124060, still do I guess, because like you I love the simplicity (and the AR on this one makes it even better). While I like the braclet/watch for comfort over the 11 series, I just can't adjust to the bigger bracelet and clasp visually (I couldn't adjust to the fat lug 11 series either).

I am seriously considering just holding on to the 5 series subs and the SD4K for the proportions, but not quite ready to give up yet (the 126610LV I've yet to try but I guess I can expect the same result).

[JRell]

Originally Posted by IR201

Ah you moved on from the new bluesy already? I think I remember when you got it. Any particular reason?

I've had a bunch too, the 11 series in date, no date, blusey and hulk, the 12 series now in bluesy and no date, the SD4K, the SD43, the JC D-blue, the 14060, the 16610 and the 16600.

I had really high hopes for the 124060, still do I guess, because like you I love the simplicity (and the AR on this one makes it even better). While I like the braclet/watch for comfort over the 11 series, I just can't adjust to the bigger bracelet and clasp visually (I couldn't adjust to the fat lug 11 series either).

I am seriously considering just holding on to the 5 series subs and the SD4K for the proportions, but not quite ready to give up yet (the 126610LV I've yet to try but I guess I can expect the same result).

Great question. The blue dial. In most light and the sun it was too light blue. The bezel, bracelet, everything else was perfect. I am oddly overly a perfectionist when it comes to watches. I wanted the dial to be a more navy blue like the datejust, but it was not. This is ok for 99% of people, just not me, so please don’t take this as a negative review of the bluesy because it is an awesome watch.

[MiloDiThernan]

I completely agree with you about the ugly clasp width on the new subs. Time will tell, but I fully expect the 40mm subs to be regarded as so much better than the new 2020 iterations. Only one opinion, so I’m sorry if it offends, but it might help someone with a marginal decision. Go for the 40mm.

[stmoore]

Originally Posted by MiloDiThernan

I completely agree with you about the ugly clasp width on the new subs. Time will tell, but I fully expect the 40mm subs to be regarded as so much better than the new 2020 iterations. Only one opinion, so I’m sorry if it offends, but it might help someone with a marginal decision. Go for the 40mm.

Except the 40.5 new watch feels smaller (has better lines) than the chunky 11 series - especially the over thick lugs and difference in width to the bracelet.

Pick up a 4 or 5 digit sub and compare it to the 11 series - very different. Then compare to them to the 12 series. It’s very much more in line with the subs you saw from 1959 to 2009.

[Oxfordian]

Originally Posted by IR201

I have the 120460 and am wondering if the LV will look smaller/less bloated on wrist due to the bezel color blocking the dial.

I am starting to feel Rolex really screwed up with the bigger bracelet and clasp on the 12 series subs.

It's less of an issue for me with the 126613LB because its broken up with the two tone, so thought maybe I would like the LV better than the LN versions.

Any experiences?

My Submariner is definitely not bloated, for me it is the perfect watch.

But we are all different and have our own personal preferences.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by stmoore

Except the 40.5 new watch feels smaller (has better lines) than the chunky 11 series - especially the over thick lugs and difference in width to the bracelet.

Pick up a 4 or 5 digit sub and compare it to the 11 series - very different. Then compare to them to the 12 series. It’s very much more in line with the subs you saw from 1959 to 2009.

I would agree but they’re still quite different than the 5 series because of the thicker bracelet and clasp. To me it’s a big clasp for the size of the watch head. I do like it better than the 11 series due to the lugs tho.


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[IR201]

Originally Posted by Oxfordian

My Submariner is definitely not bloated, for me it is the perfect watch.

But we are all different and have our own personal preferences.

Very true


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[MiloDiThernan]

Originally Posted by stmoore

Except the 40.5 new watch feels smaller (has better lines) than the chunky 11 series - especially the over thick lugs and difference in width to the bracelet.

Pick up a 4 or 5 digit sub and compare it to the 11 series - very different. Then compare to them to the 12 series. It’s very much more in line with the subs you saw from 1959 to 2009.

These are personal opinions. So they’re all valid. I have the 16613lb. And the 126613lb. And the 116618lb. I love Bluesy Rolex. The five digit tinny bracelet is by far the most comfortable. (And the aluminium bezel is a more beautiful blue than the later ceramic.) The 40mm yellow gold six digit is proportioned perfectly. The new 126613lb fails on proportion and comfort. All I’m suggesting is that a potential buyer of the 2020 41mm versions should at the very least try one of the 40mm Sub versions on. I honestly think it would change their mind.

[stmoore]

Originally Posted by MiloDiThernan

These are personal opinions. So they’re all valid. I have the 16613lb. And the 126613lb. And the 116618lb. I love Bluesy Rolex. The five digit tinny bracelet is by far the most comfortable. (And the aluminium bezel is a more beautiful blue than the later ceramic.) The 40mm yellow gold six digit is proportioned perfectly. The new 126613lb fails on proportion and comfort. All I’m suggesting is that a potential buyer of the 2020 41mm versions should at the very least try one of the 40mm Sub versions on. I honestly think it would change their mind.

The ratio of bracelet to case / lug isn’t opinion - it’s a ratio. It’s math… or “maths” as you’d say. Rolex wouldn’t have corrected it if they didn’t feel it was off.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by stmoore

The ratio of bracelet to case / lug isn’t opinion - it’s a ratio. It’s math… or “maths” as you’d say. Rolex wouldn’t have corrected it if they didn’t feel it was off.

I think they overcorrected. If Rolex was infallible they wouldn’t have had anything to correct in the first place.


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[stmoore]

Originally Posted by IR201

I think they overcorrected. If Rolex was infallible they wouldn’t have had anything to correct in the first place.


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Not infallible. Just returned to the ratio that worked for 60 years.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by stmoore

Not infallible. Just returned to the ratio that worked for 60 years.

It’s really the same mathematical ratio of clasp to case size? I’m having a hard time seeing that on mine.




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[IR201]

Originally Posted by IR201

It’s really the same mathematical ratio of clasp to case size? I’m having a hard time seeing that on mine.




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This admittedly looks more alike to me but still different. I just wish they took the 11 series and skimmed the lugs more like the 5 series and kept bracelet/clasp the same.


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[IR201]

Originally Posted by JRell

Great question. The blue dial. In most light and the sun it was too light blue. The bezel, bracelet, everything else was perfect. I am oddly overly a perfectionist when it comes to watches. I wanted the dial to be a more navy blue like the datejust, but it was not. This is ok for 99% of people, just not me, so please don’t take this as a negative review of the bluesy because it is an awesome watch.

Lol trust me I understand!


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[stmoore]

Originally Posted by IR201

This admittedly looks more alike to me but still different. I just wish they took the 11 series and skimmed the lugs more like the 5 series and kept bracelet/clasp the same.


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Sadly they couldn’t. They built the watch around the ceramic insert (bezel), they had to make it chunky. I no longer have an 11 series sub. It would be good for others to see the 5 digit, 11, and 12 together.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by stmoore

Sadly they couldn’t. They built the watch around the ceramic insert (bezel), they had to make it chunky. I no longer have an 11 series sub. It would be good for others to see the 5 digit, 11, and 12 together.

Yeah you’re prob right.

I no longer have any 11s either but have an okay pic from when I had all three.




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[SS Oyster]

The new sub is far from bloated. It is sleek and sophisticated.






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[OG1982]

I own a 124060 (2021 sub no date) and to me its size and proportions are perfect. Never fancied the 114060 as once you’ve seen those fat lugs, for me they always stick out like a sore thumb.

Recently, I had the pleasure of comparing a 1982 sub with my new 124060 and even the new sub with its slimmed down lugs looked huge in comparison.


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[Krash]

Originally Posted by Ollie1982

I own a 124060 (2021 sub no date) and to me its size and proportions are perfect. Never fancied the 114060 as once you’ve seen those fat lugs, for me they always stick out like a sore thumb.

Recently, I had the pleasure of comparing a 1982 sub with my new 124060 and even the new sub with its slimmed down lugs looked huge in comparison.


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I have a 114060. It’s my favorite watch. I love the wrist presence. Plus, unless you’re 6 inches away from it and see the crown at the 6:00 position, you can’t tell the difference.


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[travisb]

For me, the new LV is the most perfect and well executed Sub and I've owned a lot of them.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by IR201

It’s really the same mathematical ratio of clasp to case size? I’m having a hard time seeing that on mine.

The new clasp on the 41mm is indeed a bit on the chunky side. At least you don't usually stare at it while you're wearing one.

[HogwldFLTR]

I wore the 114060 and 14060 as I owned both at the same time. The 114060 just never felt comfortable. I tried on the new Bluesy and was surprised by how comfortable it was. I suspect the 126610 and corresponding Sub are both improvements over the 11s.

[Brich436]

Originally Posted by IR201

Yeah you’re prob right.

I no longer have any 11s either but have an okay pic from when I had all three.




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Thanks for this picture..... to me it looks like the 116610 is the biggest wearing due to the lug width. That's the only one I own so its hard for me to say!

[Kiddodoc]

I have owned the 16610, 16610 LV, 116610, 116610 LV, 116619 LB and when the 12 versions came out, I picked up the 126610 LV and the 126613 and am now awaiting the 126619 LB. I sold all of my subs except the new 12 line. I really like the larger size of the new subs with the thinner lugs but wider bracelet. To me, it made it more similar the 5 series. I have no regrets selling the others except for maybe the 116619 sub a little. Every person has a favorite series but to me the larger lugs on the 116 series with a thinner bracelet seemed off to me. Just my 2 cents.

[Chester01]

The reality is Rolex prioritized form over function after the 5 digit series and they must have did that to appease the crowd. As folks spend more money on watches they want the wrist presence and recognition to go along with that and Rolex happily complied with larger, shiner, and more bloated watches over the last 10 or so years. Nothing wrong with that per se, and as I see it, folks interested in what Rolex used to do, can opt for tudor.

[IR201]

Originally Posted by kiddodoc

I have owned the 16610, 16610 LV, 116610, 116610 LV, 116619 LB and when the 12 versions came out, I picked up the 126610 LV and the 126613 and am now awaiting the 126619 LB. I sold all of my subs except the new 12 line. I really like the larger size of the new subs with the thinner lugs but wider bracelet. To me, it made it more similar the 5 series. I have no regrets selling the others except for maybe the 116619 sub a little. Every person has a favorite series but to me the larger lugs on the 116 series with a thinner bracelet seemed off to me. Just my 2 cents.

I agree with you on the 11 series but wish they just slimmed the lugs, left the bracelet width alone and certainly didn’t inflate the clasp size.

I’m really not saying the 11 series is better, overall I prefer the 12.

But I would most prefer what the 12 could have been.


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[brandrea]

Funny, but for me the larger bracelet and clasp are one of main the reasons I prefer the new 124060.

To each their own I guess

[stmoore]

Originally Posted by Chester01

The reality is Rolex prioritized form over function after the 5 digit series and they must have did that to appease the crowd. As folks spend more money on watches they want the wrist presence and recognition to go along with that and Rolex happily complied with larger, shiner, and more bloated watches over the last 10 or so years. Nothing wrong with that per se, and as I see it, folks interested in what Rolex used to do, can opt for tudor.

Have you looked at a BB41? It’s incredibly thick and the lugs are giant. I’m honestly not sure that’s a great alternative to the 5 digit rolex.

I’m glad they’ve corrected the lines of the 12 series - to me it’s modern perfection. The new tudor bb58 is great as well.