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orologiollc · 2 June 2021, 04:50 AM

If there is, what is it?

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Tools · 2 June 2021, 04:56 AM

One is a frog, and the other is a cup of coffee.

Nairn1980 · 2 June 2021, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

One is a frog, and the other is a cup of coffee.

This

jb335 · 2 June 2021, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

One is a frog, and the other is a cup of coffee.

jb335 · 2 June 2021, 05:04 AM

Ok, I stopped laughing.

Yes, many differences.

The 5 digit LV (Kermit) is 40mm with an aluminum bezel insert and an approx 48-hour power reserve with a 3135 movement.

The 12 series LV (I refuse to use the S word) is a slightly larger 41mm with a wider bracelet and a ceramic insert. Updated 3235 movement with an approx 70-hour power reserve.

Many other differences, but that is a decent start.

tx02ag · 2 June 2021, 05:05 AM

What most call the Kermit is the 16610LV.

The newer 126610LV is sometimes called Starbucks, Cermit, Ceramic Kermit, etc.

Some hate nicknames and will not answer questions or condone their use.

Nikrnic · 2 June 2021, 05:16 AM

Stop it with the 'bucks' already.

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vh2k · 2 June 2021, 05:33 AM

One is an ugly green slimy water-loving creature...

and the other is a Muppet character.

garyk · 2 June 2021, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

One is a frog, and the other is a cup of coffee.

This and believe it or not, this is the one nickname that thankfully hasn't caught on. I think it went one stupid name too far!!!

Kevin of Larchmont · 2 June 2021, 05:38 AM

One has more green than the other.

subx · 2 June 2021, 05:57 AM

different size,
different bezel,
different green color,
different case,
different bracelet
different dial
...
I actually think they have iiterally nothing in common

I like both, although the Starbucks feels better in person

1665fan · 2 June 2021, 05:58 AM

Kermit bezel is a lot prettier

jb335 · 2 June 2021, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 1665fan

Kermit bezel is a lot prettier

I don't know. Some will find this blasphemous, but I actually don't like how the original LV insert has faded to a lime color. I prefer the modern LVs to the OG LV.

ttomczak · 2 June 2021, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

One is a frog, and the other is a cup of coffee.

Spot on.

Harry-57 · 2 June 2021, 06:05 AM

The 16610LV feels like it's made of tin foil and has perhaps the nicest shade of green on the bezel. The 116610LV feels solidly engineered and has more heft, although it is not heavy. The 126610LV, I imagine, feels more like the 11 series than the 1 series.

But for the bezel, the 12 series and 11 series are essentially different watches. The 1 series is about as different from the 12 series as a green sub date gets, apart from the colour of the dial.

orologiollc · 2 June 2021, 06:43 AM

It’s hard to keep up with slight variations of green!

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mario1971 · 2 June 2021, 06:50 AM

orologiollc · 2 June 2021, 07:02 AM

I was searching the forum and found both names being used for the same reference number.

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stmoore · 2 June 2021, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by orologiollc

If there is, what is it?

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You mean between the 126610LV and the 16610LV?

Yeah, everything - literally everything is different. Think of anything and it’s different on these watches.

GradyPhilpott · 2 June 2021, 09:42 AM

Evidently, there are a lot of people out there who have enormous sums of money with which to spend on watches, who are somehow mentally and emotionally stuck between nine and twelve years old.

It's frightening, actually.

jojosnr · 2 June 2021, 09:45 AM

Nope. Both embellished with a touch of very expensive green color.

Seddyspaghetti · 2 June 2021, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by orologiollc

If there is, what is it?

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Yes, just look at them..

Haveapair · 2 June 2021, 10:56 AM

One is cool... the other is not

beshannon · 2 June 2021, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

One is a frog, and the other is a cup of coffee.

/thread

TheDude · 2 June 2021, 12:21 PM

One I like, the other I don’t. ;)

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Brny11 · 2 June 2021, 12:49 PM

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One I like, the other I don’t. ;)

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I came here just to make this comment! Well said!

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Rolextellstime · 2 June 2021, 12:52 PM

For me the answer is........ Same Same but different :)

I prefer the original Kermit over STARBUCKS :)

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ROLEX* · 2 June 2021, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry-57

The 16610LV feels like it's made of tin foil and has perhaps the nicest shade of green on the bezel. The 116610LV feels solidly engineered and has more heft, although it is not heavy. The 126610LV, I imagine, feels more like the 11 series than the 1 series.

But for the bezel, the 12 series and 11 series are essentially different watches. The 1 series is about as different from the 12 series as a green sub date gets, apart from the colour of the dial.

12 series and 11 series bezel are different? I thought both are green ceramic?

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ROLEX* · 2 June 2021, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Evidently, there are a lot of people out there who have enormous sums of money with which to spend on watches, who are somehow mentally and emotionally stuck between nine and twelve years old.

It's frightening, actually.

Big boys toys lol

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Sandpit · 2 June 2021, 03:43 PM

Can’t believe this stupid “Starbucks” name is still in use. I thought “Batgirl” was bad but boy was I wrong.

2 June 2021, 04:50 AM	#1
orologiollc "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: USA Posts: 36	Is there really a difference between the Kermit and Starbucks? If there is, what is it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 June 2021, 04:56 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	One is a frog, and the other is a cup of coffee. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

2 June 2021, 05:05 AM	#6
tx02ag "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Jason Location: Houston Posts: 225	What most call the Kermit is the 16610LV. The newer 126610LV is sometimes called Starbucks, Cermit, Ceramic Kermit, etc. Some hate nicknames and will not answer questions or condone their use. __________________ ♛ Rolex Sky-Dweller 326934 - White Dial ♛ Rolex Milgauss 116400GV - Z-Blue ♛ Tudor Black Bay 79030B - Navy Blue ♛ Rolex Submariner 126613LB - Blusey ♛ Tudor Black Bay 79010 - 58 925 ♛ Rolex Daytona 116500LN - White Dial ♛ Rolex Sea-Dweller 126600 - SD43 ♛ Rolex GMT-Master II 126710 BLRO ♛ Rolex Oyster Perpetual 124300 - Turquoise ♛ Rolex Daytona 116519LN - Steel Dial

2 June 2021, 05:57 AM	#11
subx 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: usa Posts: 542	different size, different bezel, different green color, different case, different bracelet different dial ... I actually think they have iiterally nothing in common I like both, although the Starbucks feels better in person __________________ 30 years of collecting Submariners.

2 June 2021, 06:50 AM	#17
mario1971 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Real Name: Mariusz Location: Poland, EU Watch: Rolex/ALS/Chopard Posts: 2,657	__________________ This is my opinion and I fully support it

2 June 2021, 05:04 AM	#5
jb335 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: The States Watch: Cosmograph Daytona Posts: 7,465	Ok, I stopped laughing. Yes, many differences. The 5 digit LV (Kermit) is 40mm with an aluminum bezel insert and an approx 48-hour power reserve with a 3135 movement. The 12 series LV (I refuse to use the S word) is a slightly larger 41mm with a wider bracelet and a ceramic insert. Updated 3235 movement with an approx 70-hour power reserve. Many other differences, but that is a decent start.

2 June 2021, 05:16 AM	#7
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	Stop it with the 'bucks' already. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

2 June 2021, 05:33 AM	#8
vh2k "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: USA Posts: 3,018	One is an ugly green slimy water-loving creature... and the other is a Muppet character.

2 June 2021, 05:38 AM	#10
Kevin of Larchmont 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: The Ice House Watch: Ingersoll Mickey Posts: 3,400	One has more green than the other.

2 June 2021, 05:58 AM	#12
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	Kermit bezel is a lot prettier

2 June 2021, 06:05 AM	#15
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,681	The 16610LV feels like it's made of tin foil and has perhaps the nicest shade of green on the bezel. The 116610LV feels solidly engineered and has more heft, although it is not heavy. The 126610LV, I imagine, feels more like the 11 series than the 1 series. But for the bezel, the 12 series and 11 series are essentially different watches. The 1 series is about as different from the 12 series as a green sub date gets, apart from the colour of the dial.

2 June 2021, 06:43 AM	#16
orologiollc "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: USA Posts: 36	It’s hard to keep up with slight variations of green! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 June 2021, 07:02 AM	#18
orologiollc "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: USA Posts: 36	I was searching the forum and found both names being used for the same reference number. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 June 2021, 09:42 AM	#20
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	Evidently, there are a lot of people out there who have enormous sums of money with which to spend on watches, who are somehow mentally and emotionally stuck between nine and twelve years old. It's frightening, actually. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

2 June 2021, 09:45 AM	#21
jojosnr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Timbuktu Posts: 379	Nope. Both embellished with a touch of very expensive green color.

2 June 2021, 10:56 AM	#23
Haveapair Banned Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: USA Posts: 221	One is cool... the other is not

2 June 2021, 12:21 PM	#25
TheDude "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC Area, USA Watch: IIc,1680 Red,16660 Posts: 4,492	One I like, the other I don’t. ;) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

2 June 2021, 12:52 PM	#27
Rolextellstime "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Ken Location: Canada Watch: Rolex 116610LV Posts: 745	For me the answer is........ Same Same but different :) I prefer the original Kermit over STARBUCKS :) Sent from my SM-N960W using Tapatalk

2 June 2021, 03:43 PM	#30
Sandpit "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Middle East Posts: 1,808	Can’t believe this stupid “Starbucks” name is still in use. I thought “Batgirl” was bad but boy was I wrong.

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