Daytona advice

[fogby]

I want to get a Daytona, but have no relationship with an AD. I've bought a three Rolexes but have all been from different jewelers. Two grey market b/c couldn't get what I wanted from the AD in a timely manner (sub and datejust for wife).

With this said, is there any advice to getting a Daytona from an AD? I've read suggestions to "bundle" jewelry with the purchase. Is this common practice?

I didn't mind paying a couple thousand extra for the Sub b/c I got the watch immediately and didn't have to make multiple trips to the AD. I live about 1hr away from the closest reputable AD. But with the grey prices on Daytona's, I'd drive a bit and buy my wife some jewelry.

[Mgf8462]

I would say unless you have a stellar relationship with an AD already or know someone who does who would be willing to call in a favor, it's not really possible.

The amount you would have to spend to get onto an AD's shortlist would far outweigh just paying the nauseating premium you'd spend buying one from a grey.

[franktehtank]

Have you seen the new Zenith version?

But seriously, save yourself the pain. Unless you're willing to pay grey, or wait a very long time (potentially never getting the watch).

[Santiago32]

Are you a big spender on a jewelry? Do you want to add other watches to your collection? Are you OK waiting years?

If you answered yes to all these then it might be worthwhile... Otherwise go grey.

[ap1]

How are we supposed to help specifically

[Posh Gentleman]

I purchased my SS Daytona couple years back from grey. for like $18k I think.

For that price, it made sense, as Daytona was impossible to get and I really wanted one.

for grey price today, there is no way in hell I would buy one. $35-40k for a Daytona? man, for that change, I'd rather get an AP or a VC Overseas. far nicer watches that Daytona can't even compare.

I'd just forget about Daytona though, and move onto other stuff.

[dxhan]

All depending on the size of AD and how much money you are preparing to drop.

Around where I am the amount is about 60k bundle for a black and 80k bundle for a white.

[brucethemanlee]

spending $75k-$100k at AD will likely land you a Daytona SS in relatively short order

Otherwise the simple answer is very difficult and likely 3-5 years wait or longer

If you couldn't get Sub and DJ in a timely manner, the Daytona will be infinitely harder

[henrylee]

Here’s my advice go grey or start a relationship with an AD by purchasing readily available watches and/or jewelry. Be ready to spend $$$.

[ks58]

I think you should go to the AD where you have the best relationship and share the reason you want one and discuss a strategy to get it. Don’t be discouraged, they are selling them out there. Persistence pays off. You definitely should have gotten your DJ from an AD, that helps to build purchase history. Basically, the Daytonas are set aside for great lifetime customers. Can you be one of those? Also, it will probably take 4-5 years. Do you have occasions where you or your wife or your friends that you can refer need other items besides a Rolex? These are all things you should be thinking about. But I’m being sincere that it’s possible, but with the prices on the secondary market right now, the Daytona is more of a reward for a customer instead of just a purchase.

[JerBear]

OP, did you mean a stainless Daytona or are you open to PM? Might have an easier time acquiring PM.

If I did not have the unique AD relationship I have (the reason I have my 116500) I would 100% get the white dial Tudor Black Bay Chrono instead of paying grey prices for the 116500. And I say that as one who absolutely adores the 116500 and considers it a "perfect watch".

Just my

[1665fan]

Just start buying almost any watch sitting in the case.........spend 50k then see what the AD says..........easy enough!

[Rado63]

Originally Posted by fogby

I want to get a Daytona, but have no relationship with an AD. I've bought a three Rolexes but have all been from different jewelers. Two grey market b/c couldn't get what I wanted from the AD in a timely manner (sub and datejust for wife).

With this said, is there any advice to getting a Daytona from an AD? I've read suggestions to "bundle" jewelry with the purchase. Is this common practice?

I didn't mind paying a couple thousand extra for the Sub b/c I got the watch immediately and didn't have to make multiple trips to the AD. I live about 1hr away from the closest reputable AD. But with the grey prices on Daytona's, I'd drive a bit and buy my wife some jewelry.

As most have mentioned you need spend history. That dollar amount will vary by what market you are in. I would try to get a text or email relationship with an SA. You mentioned closest AD is far way, so make a trip, try to talk to someone who has been in the organization a while if not the GM and just explain your interest in building a Rolex collection that includes a Daytona. If they are willing to keep in touch with you then try to check in and see what watches you get offered.

[sj24k]

total waste of time unless you're someone who wants to buy a sh!t ton of jewelry and other watches or have a serious connection somewhere (which if you did you wouldn't be posting here.) if you indeed want to buy A LOT of other stuff too, i'd try and get the commitment on the daytona at that point, but even then you don't have a great shot. best bet, suck it up, go grey. or pick another reference.

[Ginsu_]

I decided it wasn’t worth my time or energy, or extra money buying jewelry or watches I didn’t want and ponied up for it. People can say what they want about me paying the large premium, but considering the amount of other useless stuff I’d have to buy to get a reasonable shot at this one I think I actually may have come out slightly ahead.

[911991]

Originally Posted by Ginsu_

I decided it wasn’t worth my time or energy, or extra money buying jewelry or watches I didn’t want and ponied up for it. People can say what they want about me paying the large premium, but considering the amount of other useless stuff I’d have to buy to get a reasonable shot at this one I think I actually may have come out slightly ahead.

I agree and respect your decision to buy want you wanted. Not accusing the OP of this, but ppl are buying on hype and thats not smart or logical. If you are really a watch/Rolex/Daytona person the money you spend to really get what you want is part of the experience and the reward far outweighs the cost and you will be happy and never look back. If not buyers remorse will naw at you...

[bp1000]

You can get plenty of Daytona’s at an AD.

If you forget the following

Both steel models
Platinum
Yg green
Wg blue
Rg choc
Rg diamond dial
Wg oyster flex
Rg choc oyster flex
Any new meteorite config
Rainbow of course

You can pick anything else up with a reasonable to short wait.

The following would be longer
wg full bracelet steel dial
Yg matte racing dial
Yg oysterdlex matte racing dial
Rg sun dust

The rest should in theory be between 1 month and 1nyear

[RJRJRJ]

You'll get a better grasp of the situation if you phrase it as "what do I have to do to get my AD to give me 20k?" The answer is to make them a lot more money than 20k.

[904VT]

If you want a Daytona maybe get a Two Tone version. I mean if you want one that bad, there is nothing wrong with TT at a reasonable price. If you are going to spend so much for a SS, why not just go PM. I ideally want a Paul Newman Daytona, but you know how that goes....compromises.

[Atone]

there are dozens of these threads daily.

[fogby]

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

You'll get a better grasp of the situation if you phrase it as "what do I have to do to get my AD to give me 20k?" The answer is to make them a lot more money than 20k.

Makes sense. That really sums it up.

Thanks to everyone for the responses.

[Tricolore66]

I'd like to know what 116500's are really selling for at grey dealers. We all see the $36-38k asking prices, but do you know anyone who's actually paid that for one? I've got some very wealthy acquaintances that have no issue paying six-figure premiums for the sports cars they don't want to wait for, but none of them are willing to pay the current asking prices. Granted many already have dealer relationships and don't have issues getting most pieces, but it's still interesting that I don't know a single person who's paying 116500, 5167 or 5711 grey prices. Has anyone offered $5-7k under current asking prices and been able to put a deal together with a grey?

[Vipes]

Originally Posted by Tricolore66

I'd like to know what 116500's are really selling for at grey dealers. We all see the $36-38k asking prices, but do you know anyone who's actually paid that for one? I've got some very wealthy acquaintances that have no issue paying six-figure premiums for the sports cars they don't want to wait for, but none of them are willing to pay the current asking prices. Granted many already have dealer relationships and don't have issues getting most pieces, but it's still interesting that I don't know a single person who's paying 116500, 5167 or 5711 grey prices. Has anyone offered $5-7k under current asking prices and been able to put a deal together with a grey?

I think greys sell close to asking price for hot pieces like the SS Daytonas. Maybe 500 off.

[subprimero]

Go for a two tone or better yet explore the wide world of other fine chronographs that are actually available: Zenith El Primero, Omega Speedmaster Pro, Breitling Navitimer, Tag Heuer Carrera 160 years anniversary, Breguet Type XX/XXI.

[Chester01]

Serious question, why do you want a Daytona? I have owned a couple and took 14 years to get my SS version and I gave it away. 13k is too much for a watch that is too blingy and with subdials that cant be used to time things with prcesion. If you are looking for jewelry, get a Daytona, its pretty to look at. I buy watches for function, and (sure looks count, but for 13K it had better do its job well). The Speedy Pro, navitimer, Monaco, and el primero are far more significant chronographs and do their job better than the Daytona.

If you want the daytona, I would rather blow 50k at my AD getting jewelry or other watches, then pay the inflated prices of the gray. Why, because when you blow 50k at the AD, then get your daytona, you will move to the front of the line and be able to get other watches at MSRP. If you go gray and buy a Rolex, you will not be getting your next rolex from them at MSRP, rather the inflated price.

[Beto737]

Originally Posted by Ginsu_

I decided it wasn’t worth my time or energy, or extra money buying jewelry or watches I didn’t want and ponied up for it. People can say what they want about me paying the large premium, but considering the amount of other useless stuff I’d have to buy to get a reasonable shot at this one I think I actually may have come out slightly ahead.

I wholeheartedly respect your decision. You’re gonna pay one way or the other. Congratulations, and wear it in good health.

[fogby]

Originally Posted by Chester01

Serious question, why do you want a Daytona? I have owned a couple and took 14 years to get my SS version and I gave it away. 13k is too much for a watch that is too blingy and with subdials that cant be used to time things with prcesion. If you are looking for jewelry, get a Daytona, its pretty to look at. I buy watches for function, and (sure looks count, but for 13K it had better do its job well). The Speedy Pro, navitimer, Monaco, and el primero are far more significant chronographs and do their job better than the Daytona.

If you want the daytona, I would rather blow 50k at my AD getting jewelry or other watches, then pay the inflated prices of the gray. Why, because when you blow 50k at the AD, then get your daytona, you will move to the front of the line and be able to get other watches at MSRP. If you go gray and buy a Rolex, you will not be getting your next rolex from them at MSRP, rather the inflated price.

I'd say I'm weighting the jewelry aspect over functionality. Obviously, I'm not really a watch collector and didn't realize the Daytona's had such a large mark up until this week.

I've always liked the white ss Daytona and decided to look into getting one. Semi retiring this year so thought it'd be a good gift to myself! Just have issues with paying double MSRP, but in the end I probably shouldn't be so hung up on MSRP. I have to decide if $35-37k is worth it to me.

[Michael T]

Go after a steel and gold 116503. I got mine last month from an AD. It took five months. MSRP is $17,400. I can not fathom the stainless greys are almost twice that.

[MapsMoney]

Originally Posted by Vipes

I think greys sell close to asking price for hot pieces like the SS Daytonas. Maybe 500 off.

i just bought a 2021 daytona oysterflex rose with pink dial ..Paid $40K so yeah .. :) we exist

[jimcameron]

Originally Posted by fogby

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With this said, is there any advice to getting a Daytona from an AD?

Pay the premium (in one way or another) or buy an Omega and enjoy sanity.