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Old 21 July 2021, 11:21 PM   #1
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Why the hate for Hublot lack of screw alignment, but not Cartier?

Lots of mention for the former, but I've never seen it bought up once for the latter....any reason?

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Old 22 July 2021, 01:30 AM   #2
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Probably because Hublot invokes a guttural reaction by many here-- a general dislike of the brand, if you will.

I don't own one, but think their watches, misaligned screws and all, are fine.

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Old 22 July 2021, 05:45 AM   #3
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People hate Hublot. Period. They can never do the right thing.
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Old 22 July 2021, 06:11 AM   #4
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Same reason that, in our sexist world, men are "assertive" while women are "bossy." When we have a low opinion of someone because of their gender (brand) we find ways to see everything in a negative light.

The difference is that women deserve to be seen/treated/paid/respected equally, while Hublot will always be a third-rate watch .
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Old 22 July 2021, 06:36 AM   #5
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Lots of mention for the former, but I've never seen it bought up once for the latter....any reason?

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The screws being like that are part of the Cartier "thing". It's not supposed to be aligned, from memory.
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Old 22 July 2021, 07:27 AM   #6
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Hate is a strong word, dislike for asymmetry runs rife in WIS-world.

I don’t think either brand warrants screw heads will align in any particular fashion.

It’d be better if they used double hex screws. Harder to argue about.


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Old 22 July 2021, 07:46 AM   #7
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If Hublot do the alignment gig then haters will start another wave of accusations Hublot copy AP... Why no one hate AP PP Rolex for copying Hublot using rubber strap?
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Old 29 July 2021, 10:21 PM   #8
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If Hublot do the alignment gig then haters will start another wave of accusations Hublot copy AP... Why no one hate AP PP Rolex for copying Hublot using rubber strap?
Another quirk in the system! Weird.....

I also noticed that new Breitling which looks like a Patek homage gets a hell of a lot of love compared to Hublot which is supposedly a copy cat. I think it's perhaps just a good demonstration of the selectiveness of the WIS community and herd thinking

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Old 22 July 2021, 07:56 AM   #9
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Mob mentality and group think. People jump on the popular opinion and pile on. Nickelback isnt a terrible band for instance there are far worse and less successful bands yet when an example for a bad rock band is needed everyone is ready to pounce.
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Old 22 July 2021, 06:24 PM   #10
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I think it is because Hublot feels like such a copy pasta from RO bezel, so people assume there should be symmetry like on RO. Santos since its creation had random screws and they were "functional" rather than for show.
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Old 22 July 2021, 07:20 PM   #11
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The people who care about the screws are pathethic to be honest. That's nitpicking about nothing. Aligned or not, I don't mind.
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Old 22 July 2021, 07:33 PM   #12
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Are Hublot trying to pretend that the case screws down?
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Old 24 July 2021, 12:29 PM   #13
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Are Hublot trying to pretend that the case screws down?
Yes, the (non-aligned) H-pattern screws in the bezel are used to attach the bezel to the case, here is a diagram showing the construction:

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/hublot-...-45mm-watch/2/

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Old 22 July 2021, 07:46 PM   #14
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I think Hublot has a number of cool designs. Maybe not yet "timeless", but if you like it, you like it. Not everyone "needs" to wear a Rolex or AP.

As for the screws and peoples' reactions, anything touching Hublot usually gets a negative reaction on online forums (see the "mob mentality" mentioned above).
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Old 23 July 2021, 07:31 PM   #15
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I thought the ADLC would help to "disguise" the lack of conformity of the screws, but I was wrong. After a short stint, I had to let mine go. So for me, screws alignment can be an eyesore.

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Old 23 July 2021, 08:09 PM   #16
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In all fairness.. only WIS has a love hate relationship with Hublot.. 99% of the general public look at Hublot as a luxurious item just like AP and PP.
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Old 27 July 2021, 10:32 AM   #17
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In all fairness.. only WIS has a love hate relationship with Hublot.. 99% of the general public look at Hublot as a luxurious item just like AP and PP.
I completely agree.
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Old 29 July 2021, 10:17 PM   #18
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I completely agree.

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And most people who dislike Hublot have no idea why, simply because some other people do. I was the same, until I tried one on Great watches and at a much more accessible price point than AP/RM
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Old 23 July 2021, 10:00 PM   #19
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Because of selective outrage. People hate Hublot for "copying" the RO. Nobody has issues with Patek hiring Genta to riff off his RO design to create the Nautilus. I guess Hublot should have thrown some money at Genta to create their RO-inspired design; this would have the community widely accept their offering.

Also, real screws are a nightmare to align. In case anyone wants some quick reading:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.cr...nt-in-watches/
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Old 24 July 2021, 08:58 AM   #20
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Only watch enthusiasts on the forums hate Hublot. A normal person with some money and relative knowledge of watches takes pride in wearing a Hublot… especially their Big Bangs which are similar looking to a super duper expensive watch company.
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Old 25 July 2021, 01:38 AM   #21
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Only watch enthusiasts on the forums hate Hublot. A normal person with some money and relative knowledge of watches takes pride in wearing a Hublot… especially their Big Bangs which are similar looking to a super duper expensive watch company.
Pretty much sums it up. I looked at a few Hublot pieces - solid inhouse movements and great modern designs. People love AP RO today, but like Daytona the reference did not skyrocket to stardom overnight.
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Lots of mention for the former, but I've never seen it bought up once for the latter....any reason?

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I feel the same about misaligned screws regardless of brand ……… not acceptable. Catches my eyes and ruins the symmetry of the watch.
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Old 25 July 2021, 12:15 AM   #23
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I feel the same about misaligned screws regardless of brand ……… not acceptable. Catches my eyes and ruins the symmetry of the watch.
In contradictory, I always thought those screws on my APs are fake and useless because they are too aligned and it is not a natural norm of how mechanic works.
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Old 25 July 2021, 03:03 AM   #24
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In contradictory, I always thought those screws on my APs are fake and useless because they are too aligned and it is not a natural norm of how mechanic works.
They are aligned only because they are not screws at all, they're just caps.
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Old 25 July 2021, 03:17 AM   #25
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Lol.. I align the screws on my electric switches at home so on Hublot - that would bug me. Particularly because they started off as a cheaper AP knockoff.

It might be hypocritical of me to give Cartier a pass but they have their own design language and it’s always been an element of the brand.
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Old 25 July 2021, 11:40 AM   #26
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Because Hublot is butt cheeks and Cartier isn’t that’s why.
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Old 29 July 2021, 10:19 PM   #27
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Because Hublot is butt cheeks and Cartier isn’t that’s why.

Very informed and educational, thank you
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Old 27 July 2021, 08:13 AM   #28
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it doesn't bother me at all , every watch company is deterrent Patek ,Rolex, VC, AP, Omega etc, they all exist, because non of them is absolutely perfect .
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it doesn't bother me at all , every watch company is deterrent Patek ,Rolex, VC, AP, Omega etc, they all exist, because non of them is absolutely perfect .

That looks awesome

I've been looking at a few of the Skeleton Dial options lately, feel like that would fill a gap in my collection.

May I ask which model yours is?
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Old 30 July 2021, 11:26 AM   #30
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That looks awesome

I've been looking at a few of the Skeleton Dial options lately, feel like that would fill a gap in my collection.

May I ask which model yours is?
Hublot Big Bang Unico Perpetual calendar Reference number 406.CI.0170.RX that I absolutely love it, you relay need to see this watch in person to appreciate every detail in it - and I do own PP, AP, Rolex and many other watches.
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