Opinion on 18038 "Jubilee Dial"

[horologyhour]

Has anyone seen this dial before? I can't seem to find any other examples of it? Is this factory Rolex dial or custom? It's a Rolex monogram jubilee anniversary dial in ivory/cream. Seen here on an 18038 6-mil serial.

Cheers,

[miamiclay]

Yes, they did make DD Jubilee dials in white, here’s one with diamond indices -

https://www.demesy.com/rolex-preside...d-dial-118238/

The cream color may be aging, or a photo artifact, or original, idk.

[AnythingButTime]

Not a white dial showing age, the day and date wheel are not white. It is cream. It looks original to me, but the markers look strange for a quickset. Are those solid markers on the minute track? I have never seen that before on any dial variant.

[miamiclay]

I found this image, described as a 18238 with Ivory Jubilee. If yours is a 18038, the serial should reflect a date 1985-88, because the Jubilee dials arrived in ‘85, and 18038 models ended in ‘88.
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[offrdmania]

Or it could be an 18238 dial swapped into an 18038 since they are interchangeable. Wont know until the OP comes back with the serial. It sure is a pretty dial though.

[miamiclay]

One odd thing - Can’t be *at all* sure from these pics, but it looks like perhaps the 18238 I posted has lume inside the markers, while the OP’s does not?

I believe some non-lume dials were delivered with lumed hands (especially stone/wood dials), but if the OP’s dial has no lume, this seems an odd one for that pairing. Maybe this tends to indicate the dial swap Matt/offrdmania mentioned?

In any event, I expect this is a genuine Rolex dial - These seem unlikely subjects for fakery. OP - Jubilee dials are described as all colors having iridescence, you may want to get some photos with different lighting/angles and check that.

[horologyhour]

Thanks all - I'm thinking that is was a 18238 or 18038 jubilee dial swapped into earlier 18038 model.

It is interesting though to see how many "Jubilee Anniversary dials" there are on pre-1985 models. Are they all dial swaps by definition?

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by horologyhour

Has anyone seen this dial before? I can't seem to find any other examples of it? Is this factory Rolex dial or custom? It's a Rolex monogram jubilee anniversary dial in ivory/cream. Seen here on an 18038 6-mil serial.

Cheers,

18238 dial


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[horologyhour]

Originally Posted by crowncollection

18238 dial


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Thank you! Where is this from? Would be interested in getting a copy for future.