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Old 3 September 2021, 11:27 AM   #1
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50% deposit at an AD

Question for people in Chicagoland.
How comfortable would you feel about putting 50% down at C. D. Peacock? With the accusation about selling to grey dealers, is there any chance that they lose the AD status?
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Old 3 September 2021, 11:57 AM   #2
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I'd be fine if it was an AD. But if you're not comfortable, ask other ADs near you about the same piece they're asking for a deposit.
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:08 PM   #3
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Many AD’s are no longer taking preorders, the wait times are unpredictable.

And I can’t imagine this AD you’re referring to will move you up on the list just because you’ve put down a deposit.

Can he guarantee it? No. Can you verify it? No. Those lists are all bs in my book.
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:12 PM   #4
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Not sure whether I would or not, but as long as it's refundable, your only real risk is the store going under, not losing Rolex line.
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:13 PM   #5
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I would say and add that if you're asking this question, you're obviously concerned about it. Being separated from your money without an understanding of a delivery date or expectation is tough to make sense of. Especially since almost every piece sells pretty quickly no matter the price.
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:21 PM   #6
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I wouldn’t in this day and age. Too many ADs are losing status and they can’t even order one from Rolex so they’ll just be waiting themselves. Think about it, Rolex watches are selling themselves as soon as they come in so why would a shop need a deposit other than needing the money.
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:22 PM   #7
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VERY bad idea.
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:25 PM   #8
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50% deposit at an AD

I wouldn’t do business with an AD that asked for 50% deposit. I’m open to putting a smaller deposit (10-20%) on my Amex with a reputable AD who I trust and have done business with in the past. (Assuming I have confidence they can deliver what they are promising.)


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Old 3 September 2021, 12:29 PM   #9
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OP here.
The deposit is fully refundable and I can use my credit card.
Still a bad idea?
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:30 PM   #10
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OP here.
The deposit is fully refundable and I can use my credit card.
Still a bad idea?
Doesn’t matter if it’s credit card if they go under. After some period you won’t get any protection from your card. But it seems like you’re leaning towards it and ultimately it’s your money.
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:53 PM   #11
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it's an interest free loan without time limit. Is the AD having cash flow crunch?
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:53 PM   #12
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Doesn’t matter if it’s credit card if they go under. After some period you won’t get any protection from your card. But it seems like you’re leaning towards it and ultimately it’s your money.
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:54 PM   #13
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For what watch ?
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Old 3 September 2021, 12:56 PM   #14
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For what watch ?

Even if they lost ad, they would refund your deposit. That company would exist without Rolex.
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Old 3 September 2021, 01:00 PM   #15
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On few occasions I gave 100% deposit so 50% sounds not that bad
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Old 3 September 2021, 01:07 PM   #16
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Question for people in Chicagoland.
How comfortable would you feel about putting 50% down at C. D. Peacock? With the accusation about selling to grey dealers, is there any chance that they lose the AD status?

I know nothing about the AD in question, but I have put 100% down more than once on hard to get pieces. Really comes down to your comfort level with the AD and their solvency if they were to lose AD status.


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Old 3 September 2021, 01:14 PM   #17
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C. D. Peacock was established in 1837, survived the great Chicago fire, the great depression, subprime crisis and the corona shutdown. They have 3 authorized dealers in Chicagoland, so chance of them going under is pretty slim in estimation.

I have never bought anything from C. D. Peacock. I bought my first Rolex, the Submariner, last year from Razny but the SA there flat out told me that he won’t sell me any more Rolexes unless I buy jewelry from him. So I need to find a new AD.
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Old 3 September 2021, 01:27 PM   #18
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C. D. Peacock was established in 1837, survived the great Chicago fire, the great depression, subprime crisis and the corona shutdown. They have 3 authorized dealers in Chicagoland, so chance of them going under is pretty slim in estimation.

I have never bought anything from C. D. Peacock. I bought my first Rolex, the Submariner, last year from Razny but the SA there flat out told me that he won’t sell me any more Rolexes unless I buy jewelry from him. So I need to find a new AD.

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Old 3 September 2021, 01:58 PM   #19
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Question for people in Chicagoland.
How comfortable would you feel about putting 50% down at C. D. Peacock? With the accusation about selling to grey dealers, is there any chance that they lose the AD status?
This is only acceptable if it is a VERY short wait. If they have an open-ended waitlist and ask you to pay a 50% deposit simply for a place in the queue then I would politely decline while laughing internally. I am not a interest-free loan service.
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Old 3 September 2021, 02:25 PM   #20
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This is only acceptable if it is a VERY short wait. If they have an open-ended waitlist and ask you to pay a 50% deposit simply for a place in the queue then I would politely decline while laughing internally. I am not a interest-free loan service.
Pretty much this. Did they give you at least a rough idea of the delivery date? I don’t know if I’d let an AD hold onto my money for a watch “sometime in the future”.
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Old 3 September 2021, 02:48 PM   #21
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Personally I would not without an ETA, and with the ways things presently are I don't think an AD is able to provide an ETA. Consequently, I would not be willing to put that much down.
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Old 3 September 2021, 03:46 PM   #22
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When asked, I put down a roughly 10% deposit with a local AD when they said that they could deliver a 124270 within 2 months. They ended up delivering in 3 weeks.

For Rolex, their sale condition was bank transfer only and not credit card, but the AD has been around for 70 years...
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Old 3 September 2021, 04:09 PM   #23
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How I wish my AD will ask me to put a deposit
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Old 3 September 2021, 05:12 PM   #24
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Depends on the watch/amount. I would do this at my AD for the right watch. I would not do it at any other.
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Old 3 September 2021, 05:18 PM   #25
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What’s the rank of your deposit in case of liquidation ? So they keep it separate or have a bank backing it up in case something goes wrong?
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Old 3 September 2021, 05:21 PM   #26
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It would depend on the watch, a full Platinum DD or Daytona with an agreed timeframe I would possibly put down a deposit but only commensurate with what other AD's would be looking for.

Otherwise I wouldn't pay a 50% deposit.
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Old 3 September 2021, 05:21 PM   #27
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I would not do it personally.

I can't understand why an AD would ask for such a large deposit.

In the current market if you don't proceed with the purchase most models can easily be sold to another customer.

Out of interest, which model are you looking at?
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Old 3 September 2021, 05:35 PM   #28
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I wouldn't even if you didn't buy it how long do you think it would take to sell.
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CD Peacock is the AD that is currently named in a lawsuit regarding secondary market transactions. I would not have anything to do with them.
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Old 3 September 2021, 09:20 PM   #30
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it's an interest free loan without time limit. Is the AD having cash flow crunch?
X2…….Interest free loan is exactly what you are doing.
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