More Rolex but buy other watches too?

[sm84]

Hi All,

Need some advice. My AD is helpful in getting me new Rolexes but at the same time, they also seem to pitch for buying other watches that don't really interest me that much like a Tudor, Panerai, and most recently a Carl F. Bucherer (CFB) Manero flyback. It's not that I don't like these watches for their aesthetics and features but they don't hold value and it's not like I have a lot of spare change lying around :) It's also not a watch many people know about. To me a luxury watch is a combination of workmanship, a celebration of a milestone, and a symbol of status.

I don't want to ruin my relationship with them but I don't know much about the Bucherer watches. The watch in concern is a CFB with Bucherer Blue dial apparently a hot piece but I can't seem to justify it based on that.

I am afraid turning them down may hurt my potential to buy more Rolexes that I want from them.

What are your thoughts on the CFB? Would you buy a CFB to maintain a relationship?

[OrangeSport]

I wouldn't buy anything just to maintain a relationship.

[joli160]

Unless you want to marry the SA buying a watch you don’t want would be the daftest thing. Don’t forget to bring your SA some presents as well

[Gerardus]

Originally Posted by OrangeSport

I wouldn't buy anything just to maintain a relationship.

x2

[AL_WatchCurator]

Good ol bundling

[Brew]

Did your AD recently get a pink slip from Rolex?


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[padi56]

Originally Posted by sm84

Hi All,

Need some advice. My AD is helpful in getting me new Rolexes but at the same time, they also seem to pitch for buying other watches that don't really interest me that much like a Tudor, Panerai, and most recently a Carl F. Bucherer (CFB) Manero flyback. It's not that I don't like these watches for their aesthetics and features but they don't hold value and it's not like I have a lot of spare change lying around :) It's also not a watch many people know about. To me a luxury watch is a combination of workmanship, a celebration of a milestone, and a symbol of status.

I don't want to ruin my relationship with them but I don't know much about the Bucherer watches. The watch in concern is a CFB with Bucherer Blue dial apparently a hot piece but I can't seem to justify it based on that.

I am afraid turning them down may hurt my potential to buy more Rolexes that I want from them.

What are your thoughts on the CFB? Would you buy a CFB to maintain a relationship?

How the hell can any AD be helpful if he/she wants to you buy other products that you dont want to buy.This so called AD relationship stuff nonsense is now getting more ridiculous each day.

[2001jesper]

Originally Posted by padi56

How the hell can any AD be helpful if he/she wants to you buy other products that you dont want to buy.

+1 Buy what you want and nothing else

... With that said, there are many other more exciting brands than Rolex. Its ok to explore a little

[Meyrin]

Originally Posted by padi56

How the hell can any AD be helpful if he/she wants to you buy other products that you dont want to buy.This so called AD relationship stuff nonsense is now getting more ridiculous each day.

+100%, couldn't agree more! And anybody who lets an AD pressure them into buying something they don't want is sixpence short of a shilling, as you put it recently! I haven't heard that old saying since my schooldays in England...!

[Roddypeepa]

Originally Posted by padi56

How the hell can any AD be helpful if he/she wants to you buy other products that you dont want to buy.This so called AD relationship stuff nonsense is now getting more ridiculous each day.

Yes. As ever speaking sense.


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[Timetracker]

Originally Posted by padi56

How the hell can any AD be helpful if he/she wants to you buy other products that you dont want to buy.This so called AD relationship stuff nonsense is now getting more ridiculous each day.

Bingo. What a complete goat rope.

[jimcameron]

Originally Posted by sm84

Hi All,


I am afraid turning them down may hurt my potential to buy more Rolexes that I want from them.

How many Rolexes do you already own?

[rmlovett1]

Would not buy something I don’t want. If I’m going to spend that money….I’ll spend it on the extra it would cost me to get the Rolex I really want want from a trusted seller here on TRF

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Richris1

Would not buy something I don’t want. If I’m going to spend that money….I’ll spend it on the extra it would cost me to get the Rolex I really want want from a trusted seller here on TRF

This ^^^ pretty simple

[Dsmith1974]

Haven’t seen of these for a while. Yes it’s safe to wear your Rolex a scooter. Biggest danger is getting mugged at traffic lights.


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[brucethemanlee]

What has your AD gotten you so far vs what others ones are you expecting to get?

That will partially dictate whether buying watches you don’t like and how much of them

[sm84]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

What has your AD gotten you so far vs what others ones are you expecting to get?

That will partially dictate whether buying watches you don’t like and how much of them

Tag, Breitling, SD, Sub, Daytona so far. Expecting Pepsi etc.

[RolexSimon]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

What has your AD gotten you so far vs what others ones are you expecting to get?

That will partially dictate whether buying watches you don’t like and how much of them

Agree 100% but you never know what new watches Rolex will release in 2022 or 2023........then if you've burnt your bridges.....
Still, my AD has loads of other watch brands I do like and love so it's not really a problem if you really love watches and don't just buy a Rolex to get the image and status of having a crown logo on your watch dial.

[Francist]

It’s nothing new here at the orient.
US market must’ve been much better (i think).
I wouldn’t play their games, did the maths & from telltales you won’t ever come out on top.
Unless you’re in the flipping game too.

[TM9]

Buy what you like. But maybe try on those other watches if you have not. I recently added the Cartier santos and a Tudor to my wishlist after trying them on. I would also probably wear those more than my Rolex as well. It’s getting to the point where I am almost afraid to wear a stainless steel Rolex due to its value.

[fsprow]

Although I have and highly value Rolexes, I have grown to feel that they are all pretty much the same and have broadened my horizons to other makers. Yes, in many cases they likely won’t hold their value, or even increase, like Rolex or a few others, but if you intend to keep a watch for a long time that’s of little importance.

As for the relationship matter, I personally give that little value.

[sm84]

Originally Posted by fsprow

Although I have and highly value Rolexes, I have grown to feel that they are all pretty much the same and have broadened my horizons to other makers. Yes, in many cases they likely won’t hold their value, or even increase, like Rolex or a few others, but if you intend to keep a watch for a long time that’s of little importance.

As for the relationship matter, I personally give that little value.

I am not trying to disturb my existing relationship with them only because they've been giving me the rolexes ive been wanting so far. However, I think there comes a point when there is this unspoken expectation that I'd have to buy other watches too and not just be a rolex hog.

Also, a watch holding value for me means a lot because it allows me to consider change if I want to. I am finding it hard to justify the purchase of certain luxury watches which is another reason why I am looking for advice.

[Jpccarguy]

First, I don’t buy watches I don’t like. Second, there are some great watches from other brands (Tudor, VC, Patek, ALS etc). Third, if you’re looking at the long-term value of a watch purchase, you’re better off going with an index fund long-term. I don’t see Warren Buffett collecting Rolexes.

Just one person’s opinion.

[vh2k]

Originally Posted by sm84

My AD is helpful in getting me new Rolexes but at the same time, they also seem to pitch for buying other watches that don't really interest me that much like a Tudor, Panerai, and most recently a Carl F. Bucherer (CFB) Manero flyback. It's not that I don't like these watches for their aesthetics and features but they don't hold value and it's not like I have a lot of spare change lying around :) It's also not a watch many people know about.

And that’s really the core issue, isn’t it? If it traded for double in the secondary market, many people would buy it anyway — regardless of if they liked the watch.

[sm84]

Originally Posted by vh2k

And that’s really the core issue, isn’t it? If it traded for double in the secondary market, many people would buy it anyway — regardless of if they liked the watch.

I hope what I meant wasn't taken in the wrong sense. For me, holding value is being able to be able to exchange it in the future without having to lose a lot of money.

For ex: I bought an omega for 4K. Today, I use it very rarely and I can't sell it cos it would only fetch me less than 1K. However, I've had a two tone rolex which I exchanged for another rolex and just lost like $500 from my first rolex's purchase value.

That's what makes Rolex so appealing for me.

[Beto737]

Originally Posted by vh2k

And that’s really the core issue, isn’t it? If it traded for double in the secondary market, many people would buy it anyway — regardless of if they liked the watch.

Excellent catch, I noticed the same thing. If we’re buying watches solely on value retention, then we’re doing a lot of this to ourselves.

OP, in your case you need to find a boutique where they only sell the brand you like. If they push you to purchase more, at least it’ll be the same brand.

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by vh2k

And that’s really the core issue, isn’t it? If it traded for double in the secondary market, many people would buy it anyway — regardless of if they liked the watch.

That’s what stuck out for me too. Where did we get this idea that watches are only worthy of purchasing if we can make money on them? Well OP, if you wanna make the goods on some watches, you have to look into the sink for others. You can’t hope to get just the good ones, that’s not how your flipping business works.

[sm84]

Originally Posted by Nav01L

That’s what stuck out for me too. Where did we get this idea that watches are only worthy of purchasing if we can make money on them? Well OP, if you wanna make the goods on some watches, you have to look into the sink for others. You can’t hope to get just the good ones, that’s not how your flipping business works.

I never said that I want to make money. I just want to be in a position where I won't lose most of my money when I am interested in something else. I am an ordinary person with a decent income, nothing more.

In a world of privilege, it doesn't matter. Take the example of any celebrity, millionaire, or billionaire, do you think they won't flip? At the same time, do they have to be on a waitlist? No. Can they get all the good ones? Sure, sometimes even for free.

Would you present the same argument towards them?

[Spurman]

Originally Posted by sm84

I never said that I want to make money. I just want to be in a position where I won't lose most of my money when I am interested in something else. I am an ordinary person with a decent income, nothing more.

In a world of privilege, it doesn't matter. Take the example of any celebrity, millionaire, or billionaire, do you think they won't flip? At the same time, do they have to be on a waitlist? No. Can they get all the good ones? Sure, sometimes even for free.

Would you present the same argument towards them?

Well. Good points and really unfortunate about the Rolex situation.

In my country, its equally appaling as well to go to AD and not even able to see ladies steel DJ for sale. (Full gold or wit diamond bezels). A few mens DJ 36 or 41, 2 tone with diamonds which heck TBH not for my taste. There are many models for exhibition though.

Anyway, to get rolexes that U really want, I guess the only fast way is go grey and thats why grey market demand is so high now.

[Gab27]

What Rolexes are you trying to buy?

If they are promising you a meteorite BLRO and a stainless Daytona at the same time as the bundling purchase, then certainly this could make lots of sense.

If they are asking you to purchase something now to increase your 'prospect' of getting something in the future, that is preposterous.