Bergeon Spring Bar Tweezers, Whats so special?

[sm84]

Hi All,

I recently saw a post here about swapping bracelets and one of the tools that were used for that was a Bergeon Spring Bar tweezer.

I personally like this tool as I've often struggled with removing bracelets and usually did this using a spring bar tool than a tweezer.

I, however, cannot understand what is so special about the Bergeon tweezers as opposed to something like Horofix tweezers or similarly designed tweezers that can easily be purchased for around $30.

Can someone help me understand why the Bergeon is preferred? Can we use the less expensive ones to achieve the same result without damaging a watch as expensive as a Rolex?

[Andad]

The law of deminishing returns?

[Jocke]

Bergeon is a high quality tool, Horofix is not bad either. Then there are tools that are really bad with a bad fit and bad material that easily
breaks or slips. So why save a few bucks when buying a high quality watch? In my ears it rhymes badly but we all make our choices.

[JC316]

Originally Posted by Jocke

Bergeon is a high quality tool, Horofix is not bad either. Then there are tools that are really bad with a bad fit and bad material that easily

breaks or slips. So why save a few bucks when buying a high quality watch? In my ears it rhymes badly but we all make our choices.

I never tried the Horofix but I love my Bergeon tool. I've read that the Bergeon makes a better quality tool. I suppose it's a matter of opinion.

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[Koolpep]

Bergeon makes good quality tools. Horofix too. At the beginning of my watch journey I got a few cheap tools and man, do I and my watches regret that…..

However if you want to get the very best: Petitpierre

https://youtu.be/7oCCzVpWmhw

[interestedinwatches]

Originally Posted by sm84

Hi All,

I recently saw a post here about swapping bracelets and one of the tools that were used for that was a Bergeon Spring Bar tweezer.

I personally like this tool as I've often struggled with removing bracelets and usually did this using a spring bar tool than a tweezer.

I, however, cannot understand what is so special about the Bergeon tweezers as opposed to something like Horofix tweezers or similarly designed tweezers that can easily be purchased for around $30.

Can someone help me understand why the Bergeon is preferred? Can we use the less expensive ones to achieve the same result without damaging a watch as expensive as a Rolex?

Same reason Rolex costs way more than Tudor even though the quality is very similar. Branding.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Koolpep

Bergeon makes good quality tools. Horofix too. At the beginning of my watch journey I got a few cheap tools and man, do I and my watches regret that…..

However if you want to get the very best: Petitpierre

https://youtu.be/7oCCzVpWmhw

Beautiful, not very useful for Rolex bracelets though.

I just pay crazy prices for the official Rolex tools. Buy cheap, pay twice and mess up.

[dpt.calvin]

Bergeon is out. Nam Hing is king (look it up).

[kieselguhr]

Bergeon is just a brand name. If you have good experience using something cheaper, my recommendation is that you stick with it

[Harry-57]

There's nothing wrong with Horofix or Bergeon. You should use the tool(s) that you prefer to work with. If you can't see the point of something, you probably don't need it. Much comes down to the competence of the person using the tools, but cheap stuff seldom works out cheap in the long run.

[rajurama]

Quality never comes cheap... Re Read and repeat!

[JR16]

Bergeon and Horofix are both good quality and have been around , so replacement parts will always be easy to get . Like anything, you pay for quality and reputation. Would stay away from no-name brands , worth the few extra $$ when buying tools to work on expensive watches.


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[rlj676]

I got a Horofix and it was able to help get bracelet off, but couldn’t use it to Add a rubber strap to save my life. Had to use a cheap no name spring bar tool. Probably some wear on the blnr from this debacle…

[enjoythemusic]

Have four or five different types. The Bergeon has a great ease and feel / feedback while using it, plus it seems to 'grab' the springbar with a bit more confidence. jmho

[Number3]

Originally Posted by dpt.calvin

Bergeon is out. Nam Hing is king (look it up).

Looks interesting.

[Cryten]

Originally Posted by rlj676

I got a Horofix and it was able to help get bracelet off, but couldn’t use it to Add a rubber strap to save my life. Had to use a cheap no name spring bar tool. Probably some wear on the blnr from this debacle…

That's probably because they're not designed to be used on straps. There's no room for them to work on a strap, the forks are designed to go into the cut outs in the end link of a bracelet.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

The difference between Snap-On and Craftsman? Functionally, none. But one is more of a pleasure to hold.

[dpt.calvin]

Originally Posted by Number3

Looks interesting.

I got mine last week and used it for the first time. It works wonderfully!

[214270Explorer]

"Proper tool for a proper job", as my father used to say.
Cheap tools break or bend and cause damage.
Believe me - I know from firsthand experience with cheap automotive wrenches.

[rlj676]

Originally Posted by Cryten

That's probably because they're not designed to be used on straps. There's no room for them to work on a strap, the forks are designed to go into the cut outs in the end link of a bracelet.

Would certainly explain it. Was just very difficult to align everything lol.

[seabreeze]

Sorry to revive another years old thread but I search before starting new threads.
Is there a recommendation between the 7825 (smaller) and 6825?
Seems the smaller would be fine for all rolex cases ? except maybe daytona? But the other may be too big for many?

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by seabreeze

Sorry to revive another years old thread but I search before starting new threads.
Is there a recommendation between the 7825 (smaller) and 6825?
Seems the smaller would be fine for all rolex cases ? except maybe daytona? But the other may be too big for many?

I have the 7825, which is recommended for tight tolerances,,which describes Rolex.

Kat


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[Flypanam]

Part of it is branding, for sure. However, the reputation is such as it is for a reason.

I have used lower quality spring bar tools of various types (tweezer style, standard style, etc). Bergeon are high quality, and the heads where they actually grab onto the flanges of the spring bar are very well made, with the right shape and size. I've used crappy tools which do not fit correctly into the space between the bracelet and lugs, or which do not grasp onto the spring bars well, ended up scratching up my watches and bracelets. It's a good investment. The smaller one (7825) as Kat describes is the best one to use for Rolex, otherwise you will scratch the heck out of the back of your lugs, like I have.

[fsprow]

I find the Bergeon tool very well made and it works well for removing a bracelet. However, the Nam Hing tool is much better for installing a bracelet since it is easy to maintain pressure until the spring bars are in place.

[Calatrava r]

A good rule for me is to buy the best possible tools quality wise for the job. As someone said cheaper tools may be made of inferior alloys which can bend and misshapen in use resulting in damage to the item being worked on. Whether the higher price on a particular tool brand is justified requires some research into it. As a Rolex watch costs at least 10K, on average, I am not worried about overspending on a screwdriver or spring bar tweezers.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

A good rule for me is to buy the best possible tools quality wise for the job.

Good advice.

I've progressed to this for removing/attaching bracelets to bodies:



The Bergon still gives dependable service at the clasp end and straps without QD pins.

[Goose 104]

The bergron tweezers make removal easy but I find it so hard to put the bracelet back on with them

[enjoythemusic]

+1 for the Nam Hing springbar tool. Also makes it easy to reinstall the bracelet too.

https://www.esslinger.com/premium-sp...-removal-tool/

[favx]

Originally Posted by dpt.calvin

Bergeon is out. Nam Hing is king (look it up).

I check and I can say is it looks interesting.

[painexpert]

I have used both tweezers and they are both good. Can't really tell the difference concerning effectiveness between the two. Thats why I have the less expensive Horofix now. I am always afraid of not maintaining the pressure on the tweezers and having a springbar fly into "no mans land" forever. I like my other old method better: I tape up the lugs with painters tape. I have the very, very small fork removal tool (this is key). I thinks its diameter is 1mm or 0.8 mm.I easily remove one side of the spring bar with my lighted magnifying glasses and then I just pull the other side out. The tape is a lifesaver or a lugsaver, Haha!!