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Hpozzuoli · 3 January 2022, 01:02 AM

I just bought one of the last rolexes I was looking for on New Year’s Eve. Although I don’t have my 16618 yet, I can’t justify buying one with the absurd prices. I can wait on that until pricing changes.

I decided if I was going to spend 30-40k it won’t be for a 16618, but rather a Patek. I am very new to Patek. My collection is only Rolex right now. I need help on what to look at. I don’t like the nautilus line with the metal bracelets. I want something with at least 1, possibly 2 complications. I want it on a leather strap and would prefer a gold case, but white gold, or stainless is ok. There’s so many different models and sub models it makes my head spin.

What advice or direction can you guys give me. 30-40k budget. Pre owned preferred. I never sell any of my pieces so this is for me, forever, reselling isn’t important. Having all boxes and papers isn’t the end of the world, as long as the watch checks out.

superdog · 3 January 2022, 01:09 AM

Stay away from all sport models.

Focus on dress watches. Even then, imo it’s going to be hard to hit your budget.

Patek is way crazier than Rolex. Good luck.

Pw92676 · 3 January 2022, 01:27 AM

If I were in your shoes, I’d strongly consider a 3940. Will have to stretch budget just a bit. With this piece, and a few different straps, I could be very content.

scarlet knight · 3 January 2022, 01:30 AM

Patek

I have a 5119j, which is a classic hobnail Calatrava. It is purely a dress watch. It is no longer produced, but I believe it can be readily found in the used marketplace close to its MSRP.

Mifune · 3 January 2022, 01:59 AM

I love me some hobnail...

daveathall · 3 January 2022, 02:05 AM

5227R is the most beautiful watch I have ever seen, just stunning in it's simplicity and officers case back. It is the only watch I would spend (if I had it) that much money on.

Gab27 · 3 January 2022, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by scarlet knight

Patek

I have a 5119j, which is a classic hobnail Calatrava. It is purely a dress watch. It is no longer produced, but I believe it can be readily found in the used marketplace close to its MSRP.

That is an extremely handsome watch.

~JJ · 3 January 2022, 02:18 AM

A friendly heads up, Patek secondhand pricing is crazier than Rolex. Plus, adding complications to the mix will be a challenging within your budget. Good luck and let us know what you decide on.

Hpozzuoli · 3 January 2022, 02:44 AM

I really like that calatrava pictured above. That is definetly my style and taste. Maybe a couple of options similar to that will get me going.

Hpozzuoli · 3 January 2022, 02:46 AM

Everything is crazy as far as prices. My wife totaled her FPace a few weeks ago. What a pain to find a replacement. No inventory and people paying over ask for a car!!

scarlet knight · 3 January 2022, 03:25 AM

My Calatrava is yellow gold, but a friend of mine has the same model in rose gold and it is equally compelling.

Dr Process · 3 January 2022, 05:19 AM

Pre-owned 5227 or 5127 or 5196 or 5153 or 5119. All beautiful options. Happy hunting!

enjoythemusic · 3 January 2022, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pw92676

If I were in your shoes, I’d strongly consider a 3940. Will have to stretch budget just a bit. With this piece, and a few different straps, I could be very content.

^^^ soooo this. Had a 3970er and loved it. The 3940 is a classic!

ts3 · 3 January 2022, 09:26 AM

Another vote for the 3940 or a 5110 worldtimer.

jon_jon · 3 January 2022, 11:27 PM

OP should also look at the Annual Calendar models within his budget - 5146, 5205, 5396.

azizu · 4 January 2022, 06:02 AM

if you like the Calatrava above then you can definelty get a brand new (Ref 6119) one from your AD within your budget.
however goinf back to your first point of wanting a complication, here it goes:
1- Annual Calendar: you have Ref.5146 (WG, YG, RG) in high 30s low 40s
2- Travel Time: you have Ref.5524 (comes in WG and RG) in low to mid 40s
3- Perpetual Calendar: you have Ref.5140 priced in the 40s and is a modern interpretation of the historical Ref.3940 which already raised in price.

hope that helps, happy to answer any questions

7sins · 4 January 2022, 06:33 AM

I second the 5146, great bang for the buck and you should be able to get at an AD

SoylentGreenChi · 4 January 2022, 06:46 AM

The newly released 6119 with the new movement would be my choice as a great, within budget entry to the brand. Welcome to Patek!

PatekSF · 4 January 2022, 07:32 AM

5134, 5085 or 5036 are interesting contestants for your price range.

77T · 4 January 2022, 08:44 AM

I would look towards the Calatrava line-up. The PP AD had 2 or 3 in the case North of ATL a couple of months ago.

Of course you could also go vintage…

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JSCP · 4 January 2022, 02:46 PM

Get a 5153-r , I have one….you can find for $30k. I get more compliments on that watch that my other watches.

Medem · 4 January 2022, 03:37 PM

In my opinion this is the best watch you can buy well within your budget.
(Photo from Patek website)

JohnWilson · 4 January 2022, 05:37 PM

5212a is gorgeous… but I don’t think they’re ‘available’ … long wait

de66 · 4 January 2022, 06:33 PM

Plenty of pre-owned options available for your budget but make sure to do your homework: purchase the seller, if a deal seems too good to be true then it is

moting · 4 January 2022, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7sins

I second the 5146, great bang for the buck and you should be able to get at an AD

+1, great value. It was discontinued in 2021 so may be difficult to find from AD but still easy to find used in good condition or NOS.

Also nice with the cream dial.

mjm700 · 4 January 2022, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by moting

+1, great value. It was discontinued in 2021 so may be difficult to find from AD but still easy to find used in good condition or NOS.

Also nice with the cream dial.

I concur on 5146 or go with 5227. Cant go wrong with those classic pieces if what you had in mind. Good luck!

azizu · 5 January 2022, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medem

In my opinion this is the best watch you can buy well within your budget.
(Photo from Patek website)

if you are talking AD price, then this piece has a long waiting list (just like the rest of PP steel lineup)
if you are talking grey, this is well in the 50s

azizu · 5 January 2022, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7sins

I second the 5146, great bang for the buck and you should be able to get at an AD

Quote:

Originally Posted by moting

+1, great value. It was discontinued in 2021 so may be difficult to find from AD but still easy to find used in good condition or NOS.

Also nice with the cream dial.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjm700

I concur on 5146 or go with 5227. Cant go wrong with those classic pieces if what you had in mind. Good luck!

good point guys
My AD had like 5 pieces in different metals early 2021, and as soon as PP announced the run-out list the got bought like in two weeks
classic Patek DNA

Hendrikus · 6 January 2022, 02:50 AM

Have a look at the white gold 5124G-001 Gondolo, salmon dial. Incredible watch and well within your budget, with a load of change left over!

SpeedyTuomas · 9 January 2022, 03:53 AM

3940 or perhaps a nice World Timer. 5146 might be good too as suggested above.

3 January 2022, 01:02 AM	#1
Hpozzuoli Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Henry Location: Rhode Island Watch: Rolex Posts: 990	Time for a Patek I just bought one of the last rolexes I was looking for on New Year’s Eve. Although I don’t have my 16618 yet, I can’t justify buying one with the absurd prices. I can wait on that until pricing changes. I decided if I was going to spend 30-40k it won’t be for a 16618, but rather a Patek. I am very new to Patek. My collection is only Rolex right now. I need help on what to look at. I don’t like the nautilus line with the metal bracelets. I want something with at least 1, possibly 2 complications. I want it on a leather strap and would prefer a gold case, but white gold, or stainless is ok. There’s so many different models and sub models it makes my head spin. What advice or direction can you guys give me. 30-40k budget. Pre owned preferred. I never sell any of my pieces so this is for me, forever, reselling isn’t important. Having all boxes and papers isn’t the end of the world, as long as the watch checks out.

3 January 2022, 01:09 AM	#2
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,827	Stay away from all sport models. Focus on dress watches. Even then, imo it’s going to be hard to hit your budget. Patek is way crazier than Rolex. Good luck. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

3 January 2022, 02:05 AM	#6
daveathall "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: England. Watch: Various Posts: 7,305	5227R is the most beautiful watch I have ever seen, just stunning in it's simplicity and officers case back. It is the only watch I would spend (if I had it) that much money on. __________________ KINDEST REGARDS DAVE

3 January 2022, 05:19 AM	#12
Dr Process "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Real Name: Joseph Location: US Watch: your hands Posts: 435	Pre-owned 5227 or 5127 or 5196 or 5153 or 5119. All beautiful options. Happy hunting! Last edited by Dr Process; 3 January 2022 at 05:25 AM.. Reason: Forgot 5119

4 January 2022, 06:02 AM	#16
azizu "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Saudi Arabia Watch: Patek 3700/11AJ Posts: 717	if you like the Calatrava above then you can definelty get a brand new (Ref 6119) one from your AD within your budget. however goinf back to your first point of wanting a complication, here it goes: 1- Annual Calendar: you have Ref.5146 (WG, YG, RG) in high 30s low 40s 2- Travel Time: you have Ref.5524 (comes in WG and RG) in low to mid 40s 3- Perpetual Calendar: you have Ref.5140 priced in the 40s and is a modern interpretation of the historical Ref.3940 which already raised in price. hope that helps, happy to answer any questions __________________ Current Collection: PP 3700/11AJ, PP 5170G, PP 5320G, PP 5712/1A, APRO 15500, Rolex 116234, Rolex GMT Master2 BLNR, Omega SMP, Baume & Mercier M0A10280

3 January 2022, 01:27 AM	#3
Pw92676 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 6,305	If I were in your shoes, I’d strongly consider a 3940. Will have to stretch budget just a bit. With this piece, and a few different straps, I could be very content.

3 January 2022, 01:30 AM	#4
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,465	Patek I have a 5119j, which is a classic hobnail Calatrava. It is purely a dress watch. It is no longer produced, but I believe it can be readily found in the used marketplace close to its MSRP.

3 January 2022, 01:59 AM	#5
Mifune Banned Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: here AND there... Posts: 2,240	I love me some hobnail...

3 January 2022, 02:18 AM	#8
~JJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Chicago Watch: explorer Posts: 2,287	A friendly heads up, Patek secondhand pricing is crazier than Rolex. Plus, adding complications to the mix will be a challenging within your budget. Good luck and let us know what you decide on.

3 January 2022, 02:44 AM	#9
Hpozzuoli Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Henry Location: Rhode Island Watch: Rolex Posts: 990	I really like that calatrava pictured above. That is definetly my style and taste. Maybe a couple of options similar to that will get me going.

3 January 2022, 02:46 AM	#10
Hpozzuoli Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Henry Location: Rhode Island Watch: Rolex Posts: 990	Everything is crazy as far as prices. My wife totaled her FPace a few weeks ago. What a pain to find a replacement. No inventory and people paying over ask for a car!!

3 January 2022, 03:25 AM	#11
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,465	My Calatrava is yellow gold, but a friend of mine has the same model in rose gold and it is equally compelling.

3 January 2022, 09:26 AM	#14
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,510	Another vote for the 3940 or a 5110 worldtimer.

3 January 2022, 11:27 PM	#15
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,350	OP should also look at the Annual Calendar models within his budget - 5146, 5205, 5396.

4 January 2022, 06:33 AM	#17
7sins "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: B. Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 3,617	I second the 5146, great bang for the buck and you should be able to get at an AD __________________ Richard Mille RG RM030 \|\| Richard Mille RM72ti \|\| AP 26240 50TH Green Royal Oak Chrono \|\| AP Royal Oak Off Shore Gulf Blue 26238 \|\| AP Royal Oak Blue JUMBO SS 15202ST \|\| AP ROO Diver Green 15720ST \|\| ♕ Rolex Platinum Daytona Diamond 116506 \|\| Cartier Santos

4 January 2022, 06:46 AM	#18
SoylentGreenChi "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: États-Unis Watch: Patek Posts: 943	The newly released 6119 with the new movement would be my choice as a great, within budget entry to the brand. Welcome to Patek!

4 January 2022, 07:32 AM	#19
PatekSF "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Client n.9 Location: Upper Volta Watch: what I like to do Posts: 444	5134, 5085 or 5036 are interesting contestants for your price range. __________________ I don't mind patina as long as it's my patina.

4 January 2022, 08:44 AM	#20
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 41,955	I would look towards the Calatrava line-up. The PP AD had 2 or 3 in the case North of ATL a couple of months ago. Of course you could also go vintage… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

4 January 2022, 02:46 PM	#21
JSCP "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Watch: RolexPatekCartier Posts: 2,408	Get a 5153-r , I have one….you can find for $30k. I get more compliments on that watch that my other watches. __________________ PP5167r; PP5153r; PPNautilus 7118r; PP3733-YG; DD40 RG/Sundust; DD40YG/White/Roman;DD40 WG/Olive;Daytona RG;Sub Black YG; Daytona Panda; Celebration 41; GMT-II’s: Left VTNR; GRNR; Batman; SkyDweller SSJubilee/Black; SUB no-date; Oysterquartz SS; DJ SS 36mm’87; Cartier-Roadster YG;Santos YG; Panther YG; Tank’73 YG, Tank Must ‘23;BulgariBB38mm/YG

4 January 2022, 05:37 PM	#23
JohnWilson "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Brighton Posts: 43	5212a is gorgeous… but I don’t think they’re ‘available’ … long wait

4 January 2022, 06:33 PM	#24
de66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ZRH Posts: 1,209	Plenty of pre-owned options available for your budget but make sure to do your homework: purchase the seller, if a deal seems too good to be true then it is __________________ Insta opus_d https://revolutionwatch.com/top-watc...ourite-indies/

6 January 2022, 02:50 AM	#29
Hendrikus 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Norfolk, UK Watch: All of them... Posts: 815	Have a look at the white gold 5124G-001 Gondolo, salmon dial. Incredible watch and well within your budget, with a load of change left over! __________________ A collector of Rolex, Patek, Vacheron, JLC and Cartier

9 January 2022, 03:53 AM	#30
SpeedyTuomas "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Finland Posts: 646	3940 or perhaps a nice World Timer. 5146 might be good too as suggested above.

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