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Old 5 January 2022, 03:38 AM   #1
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Royal Oaks Hit an All-Time High>>>>>>>

Enjoy the read! This is why I decided to take the plunge and overpay above retail. Ended up with a NOS safe queen Royal Oak 15400.

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Old 5 January 2022, 03:43 AM   #2
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Congratulations! Though our preferences differ (I prefer the 15500), the 15400 is an absolute stunner too!
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Old 5 January 2022, 03:46 AM   #3
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Enjoy the read! This is why I decided to take the plunge and overpay above retail. Ended up with a NOS safe queen Royal Oak 15400.

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No offense, but the claim that AP (boutiques) will start selling above MSRP was discussed and debunked. Everybody who asked at their boutique got the same reply - this is just boilerplate language and the boutiques will continue to sell at MSRP. Some fact checking would have been helpful. Nice watch, though.
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Old 5 January 2022, 03:59 AM   #4
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Congratulations! Though our preferences differ (I prefer the 15500), the 15400 is an absolute stunner too!
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Old 5 January 2022, 04:00 AM   #5
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No offense, but the claim that AP (boutiques) will start selling above MSRP was discussed and debunked. Everybody who asked at their boutique got the same reply - this is just boilerplate language and the boutiques will continue to sell at MSRP. Some fact checking would have been helpful. Nice watch, though.
Not sure who debunked that. I work directly with AP and their third-party PR agency.
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Old 5 January 2022, 04:03 AM   #6
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Not sure who debunked that. I work directly with AP and their third-party PR agency.
All of the members around the world who asked their boutiques if this was happening or not. They all said the ADs can sell over retail but boutiques are still selling at retail.
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I'll leave the speculation for the crypto markets. The only thing I know, is that you have good tastes in coffee cups!
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Old 5 January 2022, 04:06 AM   #8
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I'll leave the speculation for the crypto markets. The only thing I know, is that you have good tastes in coffee cups!
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Old 5 January 2022, 04:06 AM   #9
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Interesting!
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Old 5 January 2022, 04:18 AM   #10
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Unless that's not your coffee cup and someone else took the cover photo. Then I have the rescind the compliment. Lol.
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Old 5 January 2022, 04:26 AM   #11
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Not sure who debunked that. I work directly with AP and their third-party PR agency.
Awesome, may I ask you what they told you on that particular matter?
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Royal Oaks Hit an All-Time High>>>>>>>

Congrats! Also love the bottle of Hibiki 17 Kacho Fugestu!


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Not sure who debunked that. I work directly with AP and their third-party PR agency.
Two boutiques said absolutely not, when I asked whether they will start selling above MSRP. They had fielded the same question from many customers. Others who asked at different boutiques got the same reply.
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Old 5 January 2022, 05:35 AM   #14
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What happened to all the other Royal Oaks that you've owned?
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Old 5 January 2022, 05:40 AM   #15
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+1. I still think Hibiki 17 is the best of the bunch... would take it any day over the 21
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Old 5 January 2022, 05:43 AM   #16
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Enjoy the read! This is why I decided to take the plunge and overpay above retail. Ended up with a NOS safe queen Royal Oak 15400.

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Enjoy! The black 15400 was my first RO. Back in the day I could only afford one watch at a time so I sadly let it go... for somewhere around $12k IIRC
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Two boutiques said absolutely not, when I asked whether they will start selling above MSRP. They had fielded the same question from many customers. Others who asked at different boutiques got the same reply.
I just checked this again with 2 contacts I have at US boutiques in LA and New York. They both said absolutely not. Boutiques sell at retail. I think the OP needs to find a new source at AP, and go replace the PR firm.
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Old 5 January 2022, 08:56 AM   #18
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Agreed with what you said about the 15500 and I thought I was the only one that liked the small marker at 3. I know the Jumbo doesn't have it but I always thought it helped balance the dial.
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Old 5 January 2022, 09:38 AM   #19
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Unless that's not your coffee cup and someone else took the cover photo. Then I have the rescind the compliment. Lol.
Of course they're mine. I entered the 'interesting' for someone else on the thread but screwed up and reposted your quote.
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Old 5 January 2022, 09:39 AM   #20
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Good catch!!!!
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Old 5 January 2022, 09:41 AM   #21
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What happened to all the other Royal Oaks that you've owned?
Sold most of them at different times while trying to climb up in my watch collecting journey and two were stolen.
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Old 5 January 2022, 09:42 AM   #22
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Agreed with what you said about the 15500 and I thought I was the only one that liked the small marker at 3. I know the Jumbo doesn't have it but I always thought it helped balance the dial.
Totally agree with you.
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I just checked this again with 2 contacts I have at US boutiques in LA and New York. They both said absolutely not. Boutiques sell at retail. I think the OP needs to find a new source at AP, and go replace the PR firm.
They are telling you that because since they added that disclaimer on their website it backfired at them.
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Of course they're mine. I entered the 'interesting' for someone else on the thread but screwed up and reposted your quote.
Just giving you a hard time while complimenting you on your good taste outside of watches.

So to be clear, you are saying AP's PR company is trying to have the communication point emphasized that they are not longer bound by the list sales price, including the boutiques and trying to telegraph a shift in their retail plans?
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All of the members around the world who asked their boutiques if this was happening or not. They all said the ADs can sell over retail but boutiques are still selling at retail.
How many AD’s are left? I thought AP was moving to mainly boutiques unless the JV boutiques don’t really count as boutiques.

I went by Zadok (the Houston AP AD) during the Christmas break and their AP section was empty with all of the display lights turned off.
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I went by Zadok (the Houston AP AD) during the Christmas break and their AP section was empty with all of the display lights turned off.
at least in the boutiques they leave the lights on in the empty cases...
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OP, you got a 15500st at retail two years ago and sold it, therefore the reason you can't buy one at retail now is because you're blacklisted, it's as simple as that.
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Original thread about msrp, and as you go through the thread you see people removing the notice:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=832967
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We have different preferences but kudos to all, as for me I’ll go for the 15500 without a 2nd thought
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