How Will FHB’s Statement Affect Availability?

[Fenrira]

According to the Instagram account @swisswatches, a lot of these 50th anniversary pieces will be allocated to new clients. Interested to hear thoughts on how this will affect availability for new and existing clients. Could new clients realistically stand a chance of getting a 16202 without purchase history?

[only1swami]

Originally Posted by Fenrira

According to the Instagram account @swisswatches, a lot of these 50th anniversary pieces will be allocated to new clients. Interested to hear thoughts on how this will affect availability for new and existing clients. Could new clients realistically stand a chance of getting a 16202 without purchase history?

Francois trippin man…what in the world? It makes sense…but majority??

The patient folks on this forum still waiting for a piece who put in requests in 21/20 hopefully get priority. Ain’t no way a ‘22 request walks in and gets it unless they have some internal vetting/criteria from this year who they’re specifically trying to target

Who knows…just pray


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[VFA]

Availability?

Sometimes I think about the 99% of people who cant even dream of being able to afford an AP. What availability?

It all feels so meaningless sometimes. At the end of the day its just a couple of cheap brass metal gears driven by a spring to tell time.

Its not important.

[GreenLantern]

It won't.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Fenrira

According to the Instagram account @swisswatches, a lot of these 50th anniversary pieces will be allocated to new clients. Interested to hear thoughts on how this will affect availability for new and existing clients. Could new clients realistically stand a chance of getting a 16202 without purchase history?

Forgive me, but, what do you think?

I don't see this as anything more than lip service for marketing purposes.

[Fenrira]

Originally Posted by VFA

Availability?

Sometimes I think about the 99% of people who cant even dream of being able to afford an AP. What availability?

It all feels so meaningless sometimes. At the end of the day its just a couple of cheap brass metal gears driven by a spring to tell time.

Its not important.

I mean this is a watch forum and we are here to talk about watches. Enjoying the hobby does not preclude one from entrepreneurial and charitable pursuits.

[Fenrira]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Forgive me, but, what do you think?

I don't see this as anything more than lip service for marketing purposes.

It seems highly unlikely, given that people who’ve spent silly money on AP’s still can’t get their desired pieces. But at the same time, why would he make such a statement if there weren’t any truth to it?

[grahammackay86]

As someone trying to get into the brand… fingers crossed, is just difficult to imagine a newbie being allocated a popular piece.

[sski]

kudos to AP; this may not be the 'perfect' method to process allocations but at least they seem to be addressing concerns regarding availability for new comers to the hobby. i applaud the fact that they're at least considering ways to keep the hobby interesting as opposed to the usual 'pay to play, yadda yadda.' hope Rolex is keeping it's eyes open.

[VFA]

Originally Posted by Fenrira

I mean this is a watch forum and we are here to talk about watches. Enjoying the hobby does not preclude one from entrepreneurial and charitable pursuits.

Yes of course. I agree. Im just rambling.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by only1swami

Francois trippin man…what in the world? It makes sense…but majority??

Where does it say "majority"? "big chunk" could be 20% or 80%, who knows. I'm sure it won't be random walk-ins, though.

[heartlander]

Would a brand new customer who puts an interest for a particular model in 2020/2021 be given priority over one who indicates an interest in 2022?

[Polar Bear]

I assume there are going to be a lot of "New Clients" that are simply the wives/partners of existing clients...

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

I assume there are going to be a lot of "New Clients" that are simply the wives/partners of existing clients...

Yeah, I mean, there's no accountability here. It's not like they're publishing a transparency report.

So, it's just lip service.

[charlie2888]

I own one watch - a 15202 that I purchased at retail from an AP boutique in 2020. I'm not anyone special (even though my mommy tells me I am) and don't have any connections. Just showed genuine passion for the brand and the Royal Oak. It is possible.

[Bearxj86]

What a smart statement- hope is a powerful tool and now everyone and their mom will flood to the boutiques with the hope they get one

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

What a smart statement- hope is a powerful tool and now everyone and their mom will flood to the boutiques with the hope they get one

[DoraTheExplorerII]

Do you think he's implying Codes only?

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by DoraTheExplorerII

Do you think he's implying Codes only?

He's not implying anything. He's a marketer. He's doing a phenomenal job at it.

[HMHM]

Let me tell you this: if you want the standard variant, without the 50th anniversary rotor, it may be possible after a few years wait. No guarantee. If you want the ones with the 50th anniversary rotor, GOOD F**KING LUCK if you believe what FHB said. One year production run, with limited numbers, and it’s going to new customers? I have a bridge to sell you.
I’m not expecting Horoloupe to have one then!

[GreenLantern]

Is it bad that I don't want the 50th anniversary rotor? I prefer the original coat of arms one.

[charlie2888]

Question - is the rotor on the SS version gold or some other material?

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Is it bad that I don't want the 50th anniversary rotor? I prefer the original coat of arms one.

There’s no right or wrong answer tbh.. it’s just that it’s nice to have one that is related to the 50th anniversary. 1972-2022. Personally it’s a great thing to add to the collection with that extra little touch at the back. But hey one can daydream right haha!

Had a brief chat with the SA about getting a ROC this morning. Asked for a ROC in Khaki Green with the 50th anniversary. Told me to get a CODE or a ROO. Said Goodbye to AP. The end.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by charlie2888

Question - is the rotor on the SS version gold or some other material?

"rhodium-toned 22-carat pink gold"

[VFA]

Originally Posted by HMHM

There’s no right or wrong answer tbh.. it’s just that it’s nice to have one that is related to the 50th anniversary. 1972-2022. Personally it’s a great thing to add to the collection with that extra little touch at the back. But hey one can daydream right haha!

Had a brief chat with the SA about getting a ROC this morning. Asked for a ROC in Khaki Green with the 50th anniversary. Told me to get a CODE or a ROO. Said Goodbye to AP. The end.

F*cking bullsh*t.

Good on you for not taking sh*t and playing these stupid games.

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by VFA

F*cking bullsh*t.

Good on you for not taking sh*t and playing these stupid games.

I can post screenshots of the conversation to dispute the quote said by FHB about the 50th anniversary collection going to “newcomers” but out of respect for the person I won’t. So while I respect FHB as a leader, don’t sell false hope to people who are going to rush to the AP boutique showing the SAs this quote and give them a hard time for something we all know is IMPOSSIBLE. Be honest like TS abut the green 5711 - we know everybody wants one, but some will be disappointed. An honest statement is better than a fancy lie!

Honestly, I was planning to get a CODE eventually. The chronograph with ceramic is of interest to me as I have said a couple of times on the forum. But I don’t tolerate people shoving things down my throat. I don’t do BJs. Relationship goes both ways.

[macrowatch]

Originally Posted by HMHM

There’s no right or wrong answer tbh.. it’s just that it’s nice to have one that is related to the 50th anniversary. 1972-2022. Personally it’s a great thing to add to the collection with that extra little touch at the back. But hey one can daydream right haha!

Had a brief chat with the SA about getting a ROC this morning. Asked for a ROC in Khaki Green with the 50th anniversary. Told me to get a CODE or a ROO. Said Goodbye to AP. The end.

I mean genuinely if a ROO 43 was good enough to get one of the new RO, and I could afford it, I would do it in a heart beat because the ROO 43 is a stand-alone great watch. But yeah, if only a chance to wait in line, I’d be very Uninterested in mindset as well.

As a side note, I have to imagine the market getting flooded with superclone nautilus Tiffany dial soon. And at least upside with Code is don’t have to worry about that!!! And I do think Code at gray price at 25k is actually a pretty decent value proposition. Especially if fashion swings back to dress watches.

[AEV]

I read in one of the articles that they will make 2022 pieces of the 16202 with 50th anniversary rotor.
AP has around 75 boutiques worldwide so that makes it 27 pieces per boutique (they won't split them equally of course) as an assumption. Split that based on the material and it makes only 6/7 pieces per boutique. Platinum pieces will be less than that, and steel will be more.

41m ROC and the 37m could potentially go to new customers, but 16202 I doubt.

[PBJ1925]

I'm sure there are a number of Non-AP celebrities they'd be happy to welcome to the AP family.

[Nav01L]

I think that statement means that you must have purchased your bundle watches in 2022 and whatever you had purchased earlier doesn’t count.