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Old 8 March 2022, 02:04 PM   #1
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Is this 116619LB have fake papers but real watch?

Hello Rolex family, wanted to see if you are able to identify the watch and papers as real or fake ? Purchased it locally from a dealer in NY. Would like to know your thoughts. Do they make replica papers ?? The watch seems official the luminescence and rehaut look authentic. Just concerned about the papers. Usually the papers say 116619LB In this case there’s no Lb….
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Old 8 March 2022, 02:13 PM   #2
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Double check at an AD. It’s free.
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Old 8 March 2022, 04:49 PM   #3
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Double check at an AD. It’s free.
ADs do not authenticate unless they have a watchmaker on site. And even then, it’s rarely free.
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Old 8 March 2022, 02:33 PM   #4
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Weigh the watch, gold is going to be hard to fake. It looks real to me. I don't recall what my card says on my Smurf, but I don't think it says LB either.
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Old 8 March 2022, 02:36 PM   #5
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looks fine. And yes, the weight would be the dead giveaway.
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Old 8 March 2022, 02:41 PM   #6
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I would have it verified.
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Old 8 March 2022, 02:49 PM   #7
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Weight is 215-212g I assume it’s missing one link. I know the new 1226619 is 225g with all links.
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Old 8 March 2022, 11:49 PM   #8
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Weight is 215-212g I assume it’s missing one link. I know the new 1226619 is 225g with all links.
Mine weighs 229g with all the links. But either scale could be off some.
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Old 8 March 2022, 02:49 PM   #9
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No1 can fake gold. Even those super fakes there is a reason why they mostly fake the SS pieces because they cant replicate the weight of real gold.

Also Hing Wa Lee is one of the biggest dealers in the US. I actually bought a watch from them as well.

Plus thats a very old style card. What year is the watch?
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Old 8 March 2022, 02:50 PM   #10
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This is a 2013/2014.. weight is 212/215 grams. I know the 126619LB weighs about 225g with all the links. Mine was missing one.
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Old 9 March 2022, 07:51 AM   #11
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This is a 2013/2014.
No.

It's a 2008 M-serial (7-digit SN).

So, either the watch sat in the AD's display case for +/- 5 years before being sold, or someone tampered with the warranty card.
I'd assume the latter, going by the janky "lamination" on the back of the card.

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Old 9 March 2022, 05:06 PM   #12
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No.

It's a 2008 M-serial (7-digit SN).

So, either the watch sat in the AD's display case for +/- 5 years before being sold, or someone tampered with the warranty card.
I'd assume the latter, going by the janky "lamination" on the back of the card.

Ok I see, does a 2008 model have any differences then a 2013 or 2018 model?
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Old 8 March 2022, 03:36 PM   #13
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Its real
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Old 8 March 2022, 03:56 PM   #14
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I see nothing funny.
The color of the gold looks good as well.

To be 100% sure is to sent in your watch to a RSC for a service estimate, if the RSC refuses than something is wrong.
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Old 8 March 2022, 03:54 PM   #15
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From first glance it looks fine but like others expressed above just call Hing Wa Lee
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Old 8 March 2022, 04:15 PM   #16
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Also is the 116619LB from 2013-2014 going to be the same as a 2017-2018? Did they change anything ?
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Old 8 March 2022, 04:26 PM   #17
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Why spend the money if you are not 100% sure it is real?
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Old 8 March 2022, 04:29 PM   #18
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Why spend the money if you are not 100% sure it is real?
I knew the watch is real. The papers seemed a little beat up and missing Lb. So was more concerned the that the papers could be made.
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Old 8 March 2022, 11:26 PM   #19
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So was more concerned the that the papers could be made.
Absolutely! I still don't understand how people think that it's easier to manufacture a fake mechanical watch than it is to print and laminate a piece of paper.

I'm not saying if yours are real or not, anyone can print a legit dealer's name on a fake card and write in a date.

If you're happy with the watch, then don't sweat it. It's not like it's still under warranty anyway.
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Old 8 March 2022, 04:39 PM   #20
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USA english card is 116619 "blue index". Other countries card in french is 116619LB with "oyster perpetual"
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Old 8 March 2022, 04:46 PM   #21
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Looks a-okay to me.
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Old 8 March 2022, 04:50 PM   #22
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Hing Wa Lee is legit. I would not worry.
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Old 8 March 2022, 04:52 PM   #23
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Any jeweler can easily tell you if it's gold or not. Even if weight is correct
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Old 8 March 2022, 06:40 PM   #24
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Watch is fine as for the plastic card now its just a outdated warranty bit of plastic,and Hing Wa Lee is a respected Rolex AD.
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Old 8 March 2022, 06:42 PM   #25
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Can't see any real issues with that.
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Old 8 March 2022, 06:51 PM   #26
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Hing Wa Lee is legit and a fairly local LA area AD. The owner may be the most high end Ferrari collector in the country.
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Old 8 March 2022, 07:05 PM   #27
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That watch is authentic and might I add amazing! Congrats.


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Old 8 March 2022, 09:39 PM   #28
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Seems all good to me based on the photos and reported weight. Enjoy it!


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Old 9 March 2022, 05:03 AM   #29
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Thanks for the responses appreciated !!!
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Is it me or does the rehaut look really slanted?…


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