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Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 04:37 AM

Hi folks - I'm looking at purchasing a 116520. The dealer sent me this photo. As usual it's hard to tell the true quality however it is a reputable dealer.

Those that have more experience assessing pics and what to look for, what do you think initially of this condition?

Thank you

m j b · 17 March 2022, 04:41 AM

That's it, one picture? LOL Not much to go on.

It looks used, but not beat up. I sold one of those years ago, and it's probably worth twice that now.

But I could never read the time on it, so I don't really regret it from that perspective. OTOH, it wears great, is a timeless classic, and looks nice.

Keep in mind that a service on a Daytona can run around a thousand bucks, last I heard.

Rad22 · 17 March 2022, 04:47 AM

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=841921

i posted this a couple weeks ago, feel free to compare to mine! I am not great at determining whether or not they have been polished, but based off that single picture it looks like it has.

Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 04:52 AM

Thank you both! And yes, that's the only picture they sent me aside from the advertisement photos. I've attached the ad pictures here:

CarlOver · 17 March 2022, 04:56 AM

If condition is important to you then whatsapp and see it that way or lots more photos. Do they have a no questions asked refund policy with 100% refund?

Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlOver

If condition is important to you then whatsapp and see it that way or lots more photos. Do they have a no questions asked refund policy with 100% refund?

Condition is definitely important to me however there was hesitation when I asked for additional pictures. They didn't really want to but they did it since I told them I was nervous about purchasing (this is my first online watch purchase).

They do have a refund policy, I believe 3 - 5 days or so.

mfserge · 17 March 2022, 05:16 AM

That’s a fake, it’s supposed to have a ceramic bezel.

Chewbacca · 17 March 2022, 05:17 AM

If the bezel text isn’t faded it’s a good sign.

edisonstar23 · 17 March 2022, 05:32 AM

Hard to tell whether or not it has been over polished. However, a red flag in my opinion if they are hesitant to send you more pictures. From experience dealing with CRM Jewelers, Luxury Baazar, and Takuya (Trusted Dealer) they have always provided even videos to re-assure me of the condition.

Like many people here will say, BUY THE SELLER - NOT THE WATCH.

Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edisonstar23

Hard to tell whether or not it has been over polished. However, a red flag in my opinion if they are hesitant to send you more pictures. From experience dealing with CRM Jewelers, Luxury Baazar, and Takuya (Trusted Dealer) they have always provided even videos to re-assure me of the condition.

Like many people here will say, BUY THE SELLER - NOT THE WATCH.

Yes, totally, it's a fair point for sure. The dealer is Capetown who I believe is not so bad from what I've heard.

paxjedi · 17 March 2022, 06:20 AM

Holy polish batman!

Looks like the polisher started with a 50 grit stone and rounded out all the chamfers.

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Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxjedi

Holy polish batman!

Looks like the polisher started with a 50 grit stone and rounded out all the chamfers.

.

Wow ... forgive me for asking but what is a chamfer exactly ?

paxjedi · 17 March 2022, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunstreaker

Wow ... forgive me for asking but what is a chamfer exactly ?

Here you go sir.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=173943

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GGGMT · 17 March 2022, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunstreaker

Yes, totally, it's a fair point for sure. The dealer is Capetown who I believe is not so bad from what I've heard.

You’re gonna buy from a seller that “is not so bad”? Good luck brotus!

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paxjedi · 17 March 2022, 06:26 AM

Another one...

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=89336

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Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxjedi

Another one...

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=89336

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Ah yes, makes sense now. That edge does appear a bit rounded out.

paxjedi · 17 March 2022, 06:49 AM

Let me get this clear:

You are based in California and intend to buy a used Daytona watch at an obviously inflated gray market price from a dealer you have never dealt with before based in Capetown, South Africa? Is that correct?

If all of the above is correct, then I would be very worried about this as there are TOO MANY variables in this equation that might cause you to lose a great deal of money. But please provide more details of this watch, dealer, and transaction before we give you any more advice.

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mfserge · 17 March 2022, 06:54 AM

I have a bridge to sell you if you’re interested. My bridge selling reputation isn’t so bad. I’m a trusted seller of bridges.

Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxjedi

Let me get this clear:

You are based in California and intend to buy a used Daytona watch at an obviously inflated gray market price from a dealer you have never dealt with before based in Capetown, South Africa? Is that correct?

If all of the above is correct, then I would be very worried about this as there are TOO MANY variables in this equation that might cause you to lose a great deal of money. But please provide more details of this watch, dealer, and transaction before we give you any more advice.

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Not based in South Africa! They are in Atlanta, GA

And yes pricing is high ($28k) but where else am I to get this watch a cheaper price?

thesharkfactor · 17 March 2022, 07:17 AM

I'd want one in better condition.

boogiebot · 17 March 2022, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfserge

That’s a fake, it’s supposed to have a ceramic bezel.

sh** stirrer hahahah. Serge been a while, good to see you around again

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1665fan · 17 March 2022, 07:51 AM

Overpolished like 90% of 116520s………

Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Overpolished like 90% of 116520s………

Yes, this is the biggest problem with 116520s …

Al1969 · 17 March 2022, 09:55 AM

Did they hire her to do the polishing? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=21DrOx3RjDA

KY.. · 17 March 2022, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunstreaker

Condition is definitely important to me however there was hesitation when I asked for additional pictures. They didn't really want to but they did it since I told them I was nervous about purchasing (this is my first online watch purchase).

They do have a refund policy, I believe 3 - 5 days or so.

If a seller is not willing to provide you as many clear photos as you need of the watch before you spend many thousands of dollars then they really should not be taken seriously as a place to buy the watch. PERIOD

Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KY..

If a seller is not willing to provide you as many clear photos as you need of the watch before you spend many thousands of dollars then they really should not be taken seriously as a place to buy the watch. PERIOD

Yes, you’re right. You’ve all convinced me to forgo this piece and hold on until I find something better. Unfortunately I’m betting the price will continue to rise though …

Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al1969

Did they hire her to do the polishing? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=21DrOx3RjDA

Horrible!

paxjedi · 17 March 2022, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunstreaker

Not based in South Africa! They are in Atlanta, GA

And yes pricing is high ($28k) but where else am I to get this watch a cheaper price?

If you mean Capetown Diamond Corp in Roswell, Georgia?
If yes, call them and look for Errol Guggenheim.
That store is legit and one of the larger grey dealers in Georgia.
You can try to negotiate the price and tell them it is too polished.
That watch looks different on their website than on the photo you posted.

Good luck.

P.

Sunstreaker · 17 March 2022, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxjedi

If you mean Capetown Diamond Corp in Roswell, Georgia?
If yes, call them and look for Errol Guggenheim.
That store is legit and one of the larger grey dealers in Georgia.
You can try to negotiate the price and tell them it is too polished.
That watch looks different on their website than on the photo you posted.

Good luck.

P.

Yes, that's the one. And yes, I've been speaking w/ Errol. Very nice gentleman but was reluctant to send me any photos and finally gave in and sent me just that one. And I agree, it looks different from the ones on the website. I suppose it's worth trying to negotiate but not sure it will go too far ..

paxjedi · 17 March 2022, 10:49 AM

Just be direct but polite. Tell him the photos on his website show very sharp chamfers but the one he sent you shows it is clearly too polished. So ask him for more photos and tell him that its too expensive a purchase if you don’t see the true condition. Tell him that any Daytona buyer will ask the same.

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17 March 2022, 04:37 AM	#1
Sunstreaker "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Republic of Cali Posts: 291	Feedback on condition? Hi folks - I'm looking at purchasing a 116520. The dealer sent me this photo. As usual it's hard to tell the true quality however it is a reputable dealer. Those that have more experience assessing pics and what to look for, what do you think initially of this condition? Thank you Attached Images

17 March 2022, 04:41 AM	#2
m j b "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Michael Location: RTP, NC, USA Watch: ♕& Ω Posts: 5,221	That's it, one picture? LOL Not much to go on. It looks used, but not beat up. I sold one of those years ago, and it's probably worth twice that now. But I could never read the time on it, so I don't really regret it from that perspective. OTOH, it wears great, is a timeless classic, and looks nice. Keep in mind that a service on a Daytona can run around a thousand bucks, last I heard. __________________ Enjoy life - it has an expiration date. Disclaimer: Please note that the avatar is not an accurate representation of how I look. The camera adds 10 pounds...

17 March 2022, 04:47 AM	#3
Rad22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Mike! Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex Datejust 41 Posts: 971	https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=841921 i posted this a couple weeks ago, feel free to compare to mine! I am not great at determining whether or not they have been polished, but based off that single picture it looks like it has. __________________ 116610LV 116500LN, 116520 white 126334 Jubilee, fluted, rhodium+diamond 126710 BLRO 326934 Blue

17 March 2022, 04:52 AM	#4
Sunstreaker "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Republic of Cali Posts: 291	Thank you both! And yes, that's the only picture they sent me aside from the advertisement photos. I've attached the ad pictures here: Attached Images

17 March 2022, 06:20 AM	#11
paxjedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Real Name: Montemayor Location: Madrid Posts: 425	Holy polish batman! Looks like the polisher started with a 50 grit stone and rounded out all the chamfers. . __________________ You never actually own a Rolex. Eventually your son inherits your place on the waiting list.

17 March 2022, 04:56 AM	#5
CarlOver "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: US Posts: 2,219	If condition is important to you then whatsapp and see it that way or lots more photos. Do they have a no questions asked refund policy with 100% refund?

17 March 2022, 05:16 AM	#7
mfserge Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Watch: YM40 Rhodium Posts: 901	That’s a fake, it’s supposed to have a ceramic bezel.

17 March 2022, 05:17 AM	#8
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	If the bezel text isn’t faded it’s a good sign.

17 March 2022, 05:32 AM	#9
edisonstar23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 488	Hard to tell whether or not it has been over polished. However, a red flag in my opinion if they are hesitant to send you more pictures. From experience dealing with CRM Jewelers, Luxury Baazar, and Takuya (Trusted Dealer) they have always provided even videos to re-assure me of the condition. Like many people here will say, BUY THE SELLER - NOT THE WATCH.

17 March 2022, 06:26 AM	#15
paxjedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Real Name: Montemayor Location: Madrid Posts: 425	Another one... https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=89336 . __________________ You never actually own a Rolex. Eventually your son inherits your place on the waiting list.

17 March 2022, 06:49 AM	#17
paxjedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Real Name: Montemayor Location: Madrid Posts: 425	Let me get this clear: You are based in California and intend to buy a used Daytona watch at an obviously inflated gray market price from a dealer you have never dealt with before based in Capetown, South Africa? Is that correct? If all of the above is correct, then I would be very worried about this as there are TOO MANY variables in this equation that might cause you to lose a great deal of money. But please provide more details of this watch, dealer, and transaction before we give you any more advice. . __________________ You never actually own a Rolex. Eventually your son inherits your place on the waiting list.

17 March 2022, 06:54 AM	#18
mfserge Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Watch: YM40 Rhodium Posts: 901	I have a bridge to sell you if you’re interested. My bridge selling reputation isn’t so bad. I’m a trusted seller of bridges.

17 March 2022, 07:17 AM	#20
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,643	I'd want one in better condition.

17 March 2022, 07:51 AM	#22
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	Overpolished like 90% of 116520s………

17 March 2022, 09:55 AM	#24
Al1969 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,640	Did they hire her to do the polishing? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=21DrOx3RjDA __________________ WG SUB-116719 GMT MASTER II 126719

17 March 2022, 10:49 AM	#30
paxjedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Real Name: Montemayor Location: Madrid Posts: 425	Just be direct but polite. Tell him the photos on his website show very sharp chamfers but the one he sent you shows it is clearly too polished. So ask him for more photos and tell him that its too expensive a purchase if you don’t see the true condition. Tell him that any Daytona buyer will ask the same. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ You never actually own a Rolex. Eventually your son inherits your place on the waiting list.

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