Why does this not get mentioned as much?

[smg8]

Random question I am pondering, would welcome any views.

When people talk about stainless steel sports watches with blue dials, the Yacht Master 40 blue rarely comes into the conversation.

If someone starts a thread on a watch forum (here or elsewhere) the blue dial s/s sports watch conversation often starts with the "big three" or Patek Nautilus, AP Royal Oak and VC Overseas - naturally.

As other options come up there are a heap thrown into the mix, from haute horology to high street. In no particular order names as far and wide as;

Zenith Defy
GP Laureato
Tissot PRX
Maurice Lacroix Aikon
Czapek Antarticque
Laurent Ferrier Sport Auto
Chopard Alpine Eagle

etc etc etc

So why does the seemingly more obvious Rolex not come up as often in the discussion?

Blue dial
Robust
Good movement
Micro adjustment (unlike others)
Brand recognition if that's your thing
Reasonable price point

What's the catch!?

[KY..]

My opinion is Rolex is the most recognized and perhaps most desired watch brand of the general public, and the most hated brand by fans of other brands…

[Fleetlord]

It's the whole "yacht" thing.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

It's the whole "yacht" thing.

Thank you Fleet. I have wanted to say this many times. But did not want to get flamed. I do not have a each. But even if I did, I do not think I would want YACHT MASTER emblazoned on my wrist.

I know this does not make a lot of sense. I just feels? Ok, let me get it out and be done with it - pretentious.

Kind of like the difference between living in a mansion of Sunset Drive vs. Mansion Drive.

I know it is seriously mentally deficient of me to be ok with sporting a dial that says Rolex, but get turned off with the yacht word But if they changed the name, I would be seriously tempted to buy one. How about "Boatmaster." Or "Seamaster." Opps, already taken.

[amphr1]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

Thank you Fleet. I have wanted to say this many times. But did not want to get flamed. I do not have a each. But even if I did, I do not think I would want YACHT MASTER emblazoned on my wrist.

I know this does not make a lot of sense. I just feels? Ok, let me get it out and be done with it - pretentious.

Kind of like the difference between living in a mansion of Sunset Drive vs. Mansion Drive.

I know it is seriously mentally deficient of me to be ok with sporting a dial that says Rolex, but get turned off with the yacht word But if they changed the name, I would be seriously tempted to buy one. How about "Boatmaster." Or "Seamaster." Opps, already taken.

I gotta say Seamaster sounds a LOT better than yachtmaster!

[Adam84]

I often overlook them….and a lot of Rolex because it’s generally from people who are after a watch that they can purchase at retail, so recommending a Yachtmaster is pointless

[AlbionJackal]

It's a Yacht Master. End of!

If I could get one from an AD at a discount, I would buy one but otherwise although I share your enthusiasm and frustration, my experience tells me it's never going to be a priority model for most people.

I adore the Baby Blue for example but unless I suddenly get into boating, I'd probably avoid buying one.

Strange, isn't it?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by smg8

Random question I am pondering, would welcome any views.

When people talk about stainless steel sports watches with blue dials, the Yacht Master 40 blue rarely comes into the conversation.

If someone starts a thread on a watch forum (here or elsewhere) the blue dial s/s sports watch conversation often starts with the "big three" or Patek Nautilus, AP Royal Oak and VC Overseas - naturally.

As other options come up there are a heap thrown into the mix, from haute horology to high street. In no particular order names as far and wide as;

Zenith Defy
GP Laureato
Tissot PRX
Maurice Lacroix Aikon
Czapek Antarticque
Laurent Ferrier Sport Auto
Chopard Alpine Eagle

etc etc etc

So why does the seemingly more obvious Rolex not come up as often in the discussion?

Blue dial
Robust
Good movement
Micro adjustment (unlike others)
Brand recognition if that's your thing
Reasonable price point

What's the catch!?

Simple answer not hyped like say the Subs, GMTs, Daytona, now if the Yacht Master 40mm got the same hype on so called social media YouTube etc. Then they would be the greatest things since sliced bread,hype sells watches today and many buy the hype to wear it.

[JayHantz]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

It's the whole "yacht" thing.

Originally Posted by padi56

Simple answer not hyped like say the Subs, GMTs, Daytona, now if the Yacht Master 40mm got the same hype on so called social media YouTube etc. Then they would be the greatest things since sliced bread,hype sells watches today and many buy the hype to wear it.

I completely agree with Peter on this. The Yacht-Master was the only SS sports watch you could find in the cases, and often it could be had with a discount. Many did not like the bezel or the pop of color they used on the seconds hand. Most of the love and hype has been around the Submariners, Daytonas, and GMTs. Why would you spend more (MSRP) on a YM 40 when you could wait and get a cheaper, more hyped model?

I think the rise in costs was due to the Rolex bubble growing, and with this change in market, I think these models will be the first to have heavy discounts in the grey, and will once again be back in the cases at ADs.

[AK797]

Its a stunning watch and should get more love, for me the only issue was the plat bezel numbers were a little oversized, esp compared to the ceramic ones.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by AK797

Its a stunning watch and should get more love, for me the only issue was the plat bezel numbers were a little oversized, esp compared to the ceramic ones.

Another fantastic photograph

[Barada7]

Originally Posted by AK797

Its a stunning watch and should get more love, for me the only issue was the plat bezel numbers were a little oversized, esp compared to the ceramic ones.

So true. Kills an otherwise brilliant watch.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by smg8

So why does the seemingly more obvious Rolex not come up as often in the discussion?

I can only speak for myself. The blue dial is beautiful and the red highlights enhance it further. The maxi dial suits it. The bezel is too big, clumsy and ugly. It throws the whole aesthetic off and makes the watch look awkward.

YMMV.

[Ichiran]

I have created a SS blue dial thread in 2018 and it has DJ41 represented from Rolex. I do remember seeing a few other threads with either DJ41 or the blue Yachtmaster in there.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=614065

[HMHM]

It's not that it isn't a good watch, but the main problem for the YM line up is the Submariner itself.

The Sub has more heritage, greater water resistance (300m vs 100m), uses the same 3235 movement, and is cheaper than the YM as it does not have a platinum bezel.

So why is someone paying more for essentially the same product but with worse spec?

The YM2 has an amazing movement but the size is HUGE! If Rolex make a new YM2 at 42mm or even better 40mm, the watch will be have a long waitlist like the SkyD!

[Webster2281]

Originally Posted by HMHM

It's not that it isn't a good watch, but the main problem for the YM line up is the Submariner itself.

The Sub has more heritage, greater water resistance (300m vs 100m), uses the same 3235 movement, and is cheaper than the YM as it does not have a platinum bezel.

So why is someone paying more for essentially the same product but with worse spec?

The YM2 has an amazing movement but the size is HUGE! If Rolex make a new YM2 at 42mm or even better 40mm, the watch will be have a long waitlist like the SkyD!

[~JJ]

Your list consists of all watches with integrated bracelets… people are trying to find/recommend alternatives to 5711 and 15202. Those pieces were introduced with blue dials, so people want the blue for both historical purposes and pleasing aesthetics. The YM checks the later box, but not the former so it’s not often included as a recommendation. However, I do see it mentioned when people are looking for a blue dial Rolex.

[Daytona88]

I'm a sucker for a blue dial The YM Blue sunburst dial is beautiful but once I purchased it, I ended up not liking the big platinum bezel with large numbers.

[temporarychicken]

I know that MRSP doesn't really exist as of now but I feel that the platinum model is close enough to the gold model in price (20 percent more) and that I'd go for that all other things being equal.

The platinum is however, very lovely though. Everose is not everybody's cup of tea.

[Calatrava r]

One issue is the platinum bezel which is easily dinged and scratched. I am also not a fan of the large numbers on the bezel. I believe the watch is hard to get at retail. Demand for it is great. Lots of folks love this watch. I am a buyer at retail.

[alphadweller]

Maybe when talking strictly stainless steel, the YM 126622 is not among the first models to come to mind due to the pt bezel? Also, several models you're citing take inspiration from the super hyped Royal Oak (and Nautilus) and are perceived as cheaper and/or available alternatives, whereas the YM is not hyped, is a dressier version of the Sub and is not readily available at ADs. Also, in my mind, the obvious configuration of the YM is either with platinum or rhodium (slate) dial.

[AF_Rob]

I love the YM. It's a great watch, especially for someone like me with a small wrist.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

It’s a handsome watch, just not quite handsome enough. Take the word Yacht off the dial and I’d consider buying one.

[dannyp]

As has been said, the YM's (comparative) lack of desirability definitely has something to do with it. In fact, the only blue dial Rolexes that seem to command a noticeable premium over otherwise identical models are the motif DJ and SkyD.

Or take the OP line - a runaway success - blue is seemingly one of the most gettable colors.

Blue has also never been a signature color of Rolex professional models. Sure there are a handful, and some have been popular (WG Sub/Daytona; YG/TT Sub). But the DJ/SkyD are the desirable "blues" and it makes sense: In terms of style they are much more similar to the aforementioned "hot blues" from PP, AP, VC, GP, etc. (even if they aren't on the same horological playing field).

[1665fan]

Go try to buy a rhodium YM……you will see how hated they are……about 6000$ over retail lol…..I’m on the waitlist as I’m not paying 18k for the watch

[enjoythemusic]

Great question, and guess herd mentality. Perhaps the word Yacht doesn't resonate as much as do the more generalized terms such as Sea, Nautical, etc. So Sky-Dweller instead of Private Aviation Dweller.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Great question, and guess herd mentality. Perhaps the word Yacht doesn't resonate as much as do the more generalized terms such as Sea, Nautical, etc. So Sky-Dweller instead of Private Aviation Dweller.

I read once it was originally conceived as a replacement for the Sub (no idea if that’s true or not). Would have made infinitely more sense to just go with “Mariner,” especially once it was decided the two would stay in the lineup side by side. Like various members of the Omega Seamaster line (which I hadn’t realized until recently only became a dive watch in the 90s).

[Db7566]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Great question, and guess herd mentality. Perhaps the word Yacht doesn't resonate as much as do the more generalized terms such as Sea, Nautical, etc. So Sky-Dweller instead of Private Aviation Dweller.

Citation dweller, Gulf Stream dweller, falcon dweller, leer dweller

Jet dweller

Yeah your right, they picked the right name.


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[Marcjvr]

I wanted to get one but I could never figure out how I would explain that I am at best a yacht beginner wearing a YachtMaster

[Jpccarguy]

Originally Posted by Marcjvr

I wanted to get one but I could never figure out how I would explain that I am at best a yacht beginner wearing a YachtMaster