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HelloMelo · 11 June 2022, 03:49 AM

Just curious why so many people prefer stainless steel over PM or 2 tone? With so many stainless steel grey prices approaching PM msrp, wouldn't PM be a better purchase?

What are the pros and cons of both Steel and PM/2 tone references?

JRell · 11 June 2022, 04:03 AM

SS is less flashy, more durable, goes with everything, also much less money. I personally like the “color” better than gold.

JayHantz · 11 June 2022, 04:04 AM

What drives the steel models is versatility (robust, easy to wear, not loud or flashy) and desirability.

Two-tone is excellent, but not a lot of people are fans. And some why away from them because of the softness of the gold center links.

At MSRP, the steel models are great, but I think paying PM prices for steel on the secondary market is crazy.

beshannon · 11 June 2022, 04:10 AM

As a watch collector that prefers to buy movements, case material is not as important. Not so long ago PM was more expensive than SS so the choice I would make was Stainless. Easier to wear, not flashy and not overpriced for the movement.

Today prices are severely skewed so some may feel differently. Tastes change, I am beginning to prefer straps to bracelets so PM is something I am not looking at.

Seddyspaghetti · 11 June 2022, 04:39 AM

Ss is more affordable at msrp

HelloMelo · 11 June 2022, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Seddyspaghetti

Ss is more affordable at msrp

SS is more affordable but less obtainable.

PM is more obtainable and similar to SS Grey prices. Why go with SS over PM?

beshannon · 11 June 2022, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HelloMelo

SS is more affordable but less obtainable.

PM is more obtainable and similar to SS Grey prices. Why go with SS over PM?

In which brand?

HelloMelo · 11 June 2022, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

In which brand?

Speaking strictly Rolex. and by SS i mean SS sports models.

beshannon · 11 June 2022, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HelloMelo

Speaking strictly Rolex. and by SS i mean SS sports models.

Then I am not sure what answer you are looking for? Most people chasing and desperate to buy SS Rolex are not watch collectors or even people that want to wear them.

They have different priorities

Potawatomi · 11 June 2022, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HelloMelo

SS is more affordable but less obtainable.

PM is more obtainable and similar to SS Grey prices. Why go with SS over PM?

PM GMT at retail is still significantly higher than a SS GMT at grey prices. Then you still have to find an AD with a 126715chnr to buy for 38,000 usd.

HelloMelo · 11 June 2022, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Potawatomi

PM GMT at retail is still significantly higher than a SS GMT at grey prices. Then you still have to find an AD with a 126715chnr to buy for 38,000 usd.

That's true. Just trying to gauge when/why the SS craze started. Just doesn't make sense at these secondary prices.

ArtNouveau · 11 June 2022, 04:53 AM

I have had two tutone watches back in the 80’s/early 90’s when they seemed ubiquitous, a Datejust and a Breitling Chronomat. Since then only steel with a few bronze thrown in. The cost is definitely a factor to me. I have spent way more than PM watches over the last 30+ years but the idea of a watch that costs car money just doesn’t set right with me.
More so though it’s simply a lifestyle thing. I’m an athletic, outdoorsy type guy who rarely dresses up and a gold watch would look really out of place to me.
The current price/value market the OP mentions is irrelevant to me. I have only spent MSRP on SS watches so PM ones are still way more expensive to me.

Lightsped · 11 June 2022, 04:55 AM

Love both SS and TT Rolex watches. Everyone needs a little gold in their collection. So many people have a collection of only SS sport models, and they are really missing out by not having some PM mixed in with at least one of their watches....

huncho · 11 June 2022, 06:36 AM

value wise it makes a lot more sense to go PM over SS when it comes to the price it costs to get into SS today but wearing PM is a lot different because it's much flashier. there's always white gold but to a lot of people it's not worth the extra money over SS

Tools · 11 June 2022, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HelloMelo

Just curious why so many people prefer stainless steel over PM or 2 tone? With so many stainless steel grey prices approaching PM msrp, wouldn't PM be a better purchase?

What are the pros and cons of both Steel and PM/2 tone references?

It doesn't have anything to do with most of what all these posters say. TT and PM have been falling out of favor for several years on "sport" model watches.

It's a current fashion trend, nothing more. When the new GMT TT models came out in 2005, that's all we had; folks posting about their new TT watch.

The most popular, and copied Rolex on the planet is the TT Datejust.

bob sims · 11 June 2022, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HelloMelo

Just curious why so many people prefer stainless steel over PM or 2 tone? With so many stainless steel grey prices approaching PM msrp, wouldn't PM be a better purchase?

Yes it is!
People are paying as much as I just paid for my brand new solid gold DD for a junk metal stopwatch with a poor visibilty dial!

Benzsiam · 11 June 2022, 07:12 AM

PM>TT>SS, PM timepiece is the most gorgeous but SS is the most reasonable price.

alphadweller · 12 June 2022, 07:20 AM

TT is the best of both worlds to me. Sturdy SS case and bracelet external links, with gold elements to make the piece stand out a little bit. I own a single TT watch (blue Sub41), but could totally add another TT to the collection.

CarlOver · 12 June 2022, 12:59 PM

SS is a very clean and classic look. The 711 CHNR is a great middle ground for those thinking about a 2 tone watch. It’s so much better looking in person. Just pay MSRP at AD.

joli160 · 12 June 2022, 01:33 PM

There are more people that can afford a SS instead of a PM Rolex

noshake · 12 June 2022, 02:30 PM

SS is more affordable and holds value. Also most try to buy from an AD.

Dannyv · 12 June 2022, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JayHantz

What drives the steel models is versatility (robust, easy to wear, not loud or flashy) and desirability.

Two-tone is excellent, but not a lot of people are fans. And some why away from them because of the softness of the gold center links.

At MSRP, the steel models are great, but I think paying PM prices for steel on the secondary market is crazy.

The part highlighted in red is spot on for me as well.

Pay > MSRP for SS = big no.

Funnily enough, I feel the same about paying MSRP for most PM options. I loved the days when PM was less than retail (for the most part).

mailman · 12 June 2022, 11:13 PM

I had a 16613LB. I love the 126613LB. Beautiful watches. I just prefer SS for daily use. It’s less flash. Nothing to do with trends or fashion YMMV

HL65 · 12 June 2022, 11:14 PM

SS always my favorite for daily wear.

Dahh · 12 June 2022, 11:34 PM

SS will e my choice

jarecki · 13 June 2022, 03:38 AM

I have several SS pieces. Got my first PM recently - gotta say it’s on a different level and kind of ruining SS watches for me…

Gladiat0r · 13 June 2022, 03:58 AM

SS is great for a daily watch or a low key look. PM stands out and is a stunner. It depends where you are going and what you look you want. That’s why you need more than one watch.

I’ve had quite a few TT’s but never kept them. I currently prefer SS and PM only.

And I concur that I’d never pay gold prices for a stainless. There’s no comparison.

jarecki · 13 June 2022, 06:12 AM

Once you go PM, it’s hard to go back…

7enderbender · 13 June 2022, 07:06 AM

Money and “value” aside I’d always prefer stainless steel over any precious metal - at least for sports watches (so basically any Rolex). No diamonds and such for me either. I just don’t like things like that. That’s for jewelry.

bob sims · 13 June 2022, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jarecki

Once you go PM, it’s hard to go back…

very very true.

11 June 2022, 03:49 AM	#1
HelloMelo "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: New york Posts: 610	SS over PM or 2 tone Just curious why so many people prefer stainless steel over PM or 2 tone? With so many stainless steel grey prices approaching PM msrp, wouldn't PM be a better purchase? What are the pros and cons of both Steel and PM/2 tone references?

11 June 2022, 04:03 AM	#2
JRell "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 126710BLNR Jubilee Posts: 7,084	SS is less flashy, more durable, goes with everything, also much less money. I personally like the “color” better than gold. __________________ 126710 BLNR Jubilee

11 June 2022, 04:10 AM	#4
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	As a watch collector that prefers to buy movements, case material is not as important. Not so long ago PM was more expensive than SS so the choice I would make was Stainless. Easier to wear, not flashy and not overpriced for the movement. Today prices are severely skewed so some may feel differently. Tastes change, I am beginning to prefer straps to bracelets so PM is something I am not looking at. __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

11 June 2022, 07:12 AM	#17
Benzsiam 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS Posts: 6,002	PM>TT>SS, PM timepiece is the most gorgeous but SS is the most reasonable price. __________________ Rolex: 116621, 126333, 126711CHNR, 114060, 116500LN White, 126660 JC, 126710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 116610LV, 126610LN, 126610LV, 116508 YG Green Dial, 124300 Turquoise, 126719BLRO Meteorite dial, 228235 Olive dial ,126755SARU, 116505 RG Black dial, 326934 Blue Sky D. AP: 15451ST Blue, 15500OR w/Bracelet, 14790SA, 14790BA, 26022BC(Salmon) PP: 5524R, 5712G, ALS: Time Zone 136.032, Cartier: WGSA0030, WSSA0061, YG Oct. 2965, Carree 2961, YG Carree, Tank W5000156 Breguet: 7137BA, MontBlanc: 109996"

12 June 2022, 01:33 PM	#20
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,759	There are more people that can afford a SS instead of a PM Rolex __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

11 June 2022, 04:04 AM	#3
JayHantz 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Texas Watch: @Escapementt Posts: 9,844	What drives the steel models is versatility (robust, easy to wear, not loud or flashy) and desirability. Two-tone is excellent, but not a lot of people are fans. And some why away from them because of the softness of the gold center links. At MSRP, the steel models are great, but I think paying PM prices for steel on the secondary market is crazy.

11 June 2022, 04:39 AM	#5
Seddyspaghetti "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Uranus Watch: 116500LN Posts: 4,789	Ss is more affordable at msrp

11 June 2022, 04:53 AM	#12
ArtNouveau 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NWA, USA Watch: BLRO/Daytona/OP41s Posts: 5,387	I have had two tutone watches back in the 80’s/early 90’s when they seemed ubiquitous, a Datejust and a Breitling Chronomat. Since then only steel with a few bronze thrown in. The cost is definitely a factor to me. I have spent way more than PM watches over the last 30+ years but the idea of a watch that costs car money just doesn’t set right with me. More so though it’s simply a lifestyle thing. I’m an athletic, outdoorsy type guy who rarely dresses up and a gold watch would look really out of place to me. The current price/value market the OP mentions is irrelevant to me. I have only spent MSRP on SS watches so PM ones are still way more expensive to me.

11 June 2022, 04:55 AM	#13
Lightsped "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Georgia Watch: Sub, OP41, DJ x 4 Posts: 845	Love both SS and TT Rolex watches. Everyone needs a little gold in their collection. So many people have a collection of only SS sport models, and they are really missing out by not having some PM mixed in with at least one of their watches....

11 June 2022, 06:36 AM	#14
huncho 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: nyc Posts: 6,720	value wise it makes a lot more sense to go PM over SS when it comes to the price it costs to get into SS today but wearing PM is a lot different because it's much flashier. there's always white gold but to a lot of people it's not worth the extra money over SS

12 June 2022, 07:20 AM	#18
alphadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vic Location: Spain Watch: SD43 Posts: 6,198	TT is the best of both worlds to me. Sturdy SS case and bracelet external links, with gold elements to make the piece stand out a little bit. I own a single TT watch (blue Sub41), but could totally add another TT to the collection.

12 June 2022, 12:59 PM	#19
CarlOver "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: US Posts: 2,219	SS is a very clean and classic look. The 711 CHNR is a great middle ground for those thinking about a 2 tone watch. It’s so much better looking in person. Just pay MSRP at AD.

12 June 2022, 02:30 PM	#21
noshake "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: 🌐 Watch: BLNR Posts: 1,324	SS is more affordable and holds value. Also most try to buy from an AD.

12 June 2022, 11:13 PM	#23
mailman TRF Moderator & SubLV41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,510	I had a 16613LB. I love the 126613LB. Beautiful watches. I just prefer SS for daily use. It’s less flash. Nothing to do with trends or fashion YMMV __________________ JJ

12 June 2022, 11:14 PM	#24
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	SS always my favorite for daily wear. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

12 June 2022, 11:34 PM	#25
Dahh Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: USA Posts: 237	SS will e my choice

13 June 2022, 03:38 AM	#26
jarecki "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: U.S. and A. Watch: it. Posts: 362	I have several SS pieces. Got my first PM recently - gotta say it’s on a different level and kind of ruining SS watches for me… __________________ Audemars Piguet \| Panerai \| Rolex \| Omega \| Casio

13 June 2022, 03:58 AM	#27
Gladiat0r "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 497	SS is great for a daily watch or a low key look. PM stands out and is a stunner. It depends where you are going and what you look you want. That’s why you need more than one watch. I’ve had quite a few TT’s but never kept them. I currently prefer SS and PM only. And I concur that I’d never pay gold prices for a stainless. There’s no comparison.

13 June 2022, 06:12 AM	#28
jarecki "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: U.S. and A. Watch: it. Posts: 362	Once you go PM, it’s hard to go back… __________________ Audemars Piguet \| Panerai \| Rolex \| Omega \| Casio

13 June 2022, 07:06 AM	#29
7enderbender "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: USA Posts: 976	Money and “value” aside I’d always prefer stainless steel over any precious metal - at least for sports watches (so basically any Rolex). No diamonds and such for me either. I just don’t like things like that. That’s for jewelry.

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