Apple Watch Ultra

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy1a..._channel=Apple

[77T]

Yeah saw that yesterday.
Not sure it’ll appeal to many but finally 100m WR.


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[enjoythemusic]

SCUBA divers will LOVE this timepiece as will hard-core explorers. Loaded up with sensors, computational power, and 100m WP, Apple / independent programmers can develop apps that expand the dataset capability and analysis provided by this wrist instrument.

Add in SAT phone link to SpaceX's global network and this could a real game changer.

[beshannon]

I'm interested to try it on and check the size

[ranger22]

I, for one, can’t wait to get one and wear it while driving my tricked out over landing mall crawler over to Orvis to snag some new gear!

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

SCUBA divers will LOVE this timepiece as will hard-core explorers.

As long as you still have a trusty mechanical watch as backup should the wearer suddenly lose battery power

[themast]

Originally Posted by brandrea

As long as you still have a trusty mechanical watch as backup should the wearer suddenly lose battery power

Says 36h battery which seems adequate for scuba diving. I guess that can be a bit of a limiting factor for mountaineering.

However, let's face the truth, this is no different than a DeepSea... 99.9% of users won't do anything extreme with it.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by themast

Says 36h battery which seems adequate for scuba diving. I guess that can be a bit of a limiting factor for mountaineering.

However, let's face the truth, this is no different than a DeepSea... 99.9% of users won't do anything extreme with it.

So long as its fully charged or doesn't malfunction.

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[Cru Jones]

It seems really really big on the wrist. Price is intense. But lots of features, too.

[TimeAZ]

Looks kind of big.

Maybe one day I might consider an apple watch, if they ever make it possible to use one and activate it without having to own an iPhone.

[GB-man]

Sweet. Huge tho. Basically a better breitling emergency for 799 instead of 15k lol

[stephentross]

I wear one on occasion. I have a Series 4 now....Apple Watch is great to use while driving long distances and in new places. Love the directions update vibrations. They are also great to disconnect. Sounds weird. But leaving home without a phone and an apple watch is very nice. Get the calls that are emergencies and no phone to lug around. Great for date nights. Not that I have date nights anymore... Kids drain our energy... Ill get one of these Ultras on 9/23 and see how it is. Looking forward to a new watch.. Mechanical or Battery... I have a problem.. hahaha

[Gebbeth]

Okay. First off, I'm not a smart watch owner, nor do I expect to be one in the near or distant future. I see so no need, nor do I have the desire, to have yet another electronic leash on me. A cellphone is quite enough thank you.

This will hopefully put my next comment in the right light.

The Ultra is the ugliest thing I have ever seen. It's like strapping an old smart phone on your wrist. Remember those TV watches that came out in the early 80's (Seiko or Casio or both)? Well it's odd that this is coming back in electronic leash form.

If I was a diver, which I am not, there is no way in hell I would be using an Apple watch in lieu of a dedicated dive computer, no matter what app is created. If keeping you alive is dependent on a piece of equipment, I would want a piece of equipment dedicated to that purpose.....not something that can double as your credit card too.

It makes no sense.

Next thing you know, they will be coming out with the Apple Watch Ultra Pro Max with a 6 inch screen.

[ArsenX]

I’m also concerned about the size. Other than that, it’s a good one to have.


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[ArsenX]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

Okay. First off, I'm not a smart watch owner, nor do I expect to be one in the near or distant future. I see so no need, nor do I have the desire, to have yet another electronic leash on me. A cellphone is quite enough thank you.

This will hopefully put my next comment in the right light.

The Ultra is the ugliest thing I have ever seen. It's like strapping an old smart phone on your wrist. Remember those TV watches that came out in the early 80's (Seiko or Casio or both)? Well it's odd that this is coming back in electronic leash form.

If I was a diver, which I am not, there is no way in hell I would be using an Apple watch in lieu of a dedicated dive computer, no matter what app is created. If keeping you alive is dependent on a piece of equipment, I would want a piece of equipment dedicated to that purpose.....not something that can double as your credit card too.

It makes no sense.

Next thing you know, they will be coming out with the Apple Watch Ultra Pro Max with a 6 inch screen.

Lmao. There’s actually sense in this. And Apple won’t stop at this, they’ll keep modifying and modifying just to get the market going and for sure won’t be dedicated for just the sole purpose of saving a life. Probably the more the features in it, the more appealing it is to the market.


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[INC]

Originally Posted by Gebbeth

If I was a diver, which I am not, there is no way in hell I would be using an Apple watch in lieu of a dedicated dive computer, no matter what app is created.

Since none of the vital sensors would work outside of any clothing or suit, this watch is nothing more than an expensive gadget versus a professional hardware. It's like buying a Deepsea because you can definitely go swimming with it.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by INC

Since none of the vital sensors would work outside of any clothing or suit, this watch is nothing more than an expensive gadget versus a professional hardware. It's like buying a Deepsea because you can definitely go swimming with it.

So you are asying that it will not work underwater? Why?

[yoast]

Originally Posted by beshannon

So you are asying that it will not work underwater? Why?

Because dive computers / watches are worn over the wetsuit, hence the clasp extension on seadwellers.
This apple watch needs to touch the skin for it to work properly so if you wear it over the wetsuit, the sensors won't work

[Andad]

Wow, 100 metres WR.

Does that mean you can wash your hands while wearing it?

[HHIslander]

The mountain biker/outdoors freaks I hang out with are going nuts over this. It’s not for me, but I can see the market for it.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by yoast

Because dive computers / watches are worn over the wetsuit, hence the clasp extension on seadwellers.
This apple watch needs to touch the skin for it to work properly so if you wear it over the wetsuit, the sensors won't work

Interesting, that is not what Apple says

The Ocean Band is designed specifically for extreme water sports and recreational diving with a titanium buckle and corresponding spring-loaded loop. Molded from a flexible fluoroelastomer, it stretches and utilizes the tubular geometry for a secure fit. The Ocean Band also has an optional extra-long tail that allows users to comfortably wear over a wetsuit.

Ocean and Water Sports Enthusiasts
Apple Watch Ultra is designed for water sports, including extreme activities like kitesurfing and wakeboarding, along with recreational scuba diving to 40 meters with the new Oceanic+ app.

To support these underwater adventures, Apple Watch Ultra is certified to WR100. Apple Watch Ultra is also certified to EN 13319, which is an internationally recognized standard for dive accessories, including depth gauges that are relied upon by recreational divers around the world

Utilizing a new depth gauge, Apple Watch Ultra features a Depth app designed with an intuitive user interface. With just a glance, the Depth app displays time, current depth, water temperature, duration under water, and max depth reached. Users can program the Action button to instantly launch the Depth app.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/...e-watch-ultra/

From a scuba diver

First things first, I’m not here to convince people who don’t trust Apple otherwise; scuba diving isn’t without risk, and you are responsible for your own safety. If you don’t feel comfortable with the Apple Watch Ultra to keep track of your dive safety, then there’s a really simple solution: Don’t use it.

I have no qualms about doing so, however, and I’ll tell you why.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/07/ap...tch-for-scuba/

Apple wants to do everything those beloved dive watches do, and more, of course. The Apple Watch Ultra is water-resistant to 100m and includes actual dive computer functionality through a partnership with the Oceanic+ app and a built-in depth gauge. Water resistance of 100m might not sound like as serious as your average Seiko or Omega diver with 200m, 300m or even sometimes much more, but those ratings often aren't literal, and Apple clearly intends for this watch to be used underwater in SCUBA situations — it's even made to comply with EN13319, the international standard for recreational SCUBA dive computers.

https://www.gearpatrol.com/watches/a...e-watch-ultra/

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by HHIslander

The mountain biker/outdoors freaks I hang out with are going nuts over this. It’s not for me, but I can see the market for it.

That is the reason I am interested depending on the size, for mountain biking and exercise which is all I use my Apple watch for anyway.

[stephentross]

Apple Watch Ultra is surely not to be the only watch in ones collection, Prob not even the only apple watch in ones collection. I was totally against Apple Watch.. Until I wore one for a week. Like pineapple on pizza. Don't knock it til you try it.

Every watch has a function. Figuring what the watch is great at is part of the fun in wearing them.

I have a family member who's life was saved by wearing an apple watch. This is priceless and While I do enjoy my luxury watches. There is utility in these battery things.

[INC]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Interesting, that is not what Apple says

I think, you misd my original point, IMO to prove that an AW could work under the sea is not an argument for me.

The AW in itself a great tool, but not a watch, as to show the time is only a feature. In contrary the AW has several sensors which aren't working if you aren't using it directly on your skin. Most of all, if you wear gloves under the water or up in the hills. In these cases, you will not be able to use theese features, but in the same time you can still start accidentally another app and it follows that you can loose the control over the displayed information. Anyhow the touchscreens are working only fine if you use these with dry fingers. So I'm sceptic if the AW can really be used like the way as Apple advertised this model.

So in short, I'm not sure what Apple wanted to invent...

[stephentross]

I believe the Apple watch ultra will be an amazing smart watch. But 2 things, The first about diving. The Ultra is marketed as a recreational dive watch, I see no issues.

The biggest issue I see is COLD. I do not see a smart watch or any battery powered devices doing well. It isn't built for extreme cold. Nothing is. Extreme cold kills batteries. This watch would not be on my wrist for any extreme cold activity. Mechanical watches for me. Ill have a modern device with me. But anything Battery operated can Fail to the point of never working again. extreme temperatures cause lithium batteries to separate.

I love this Non Rolex forum where discussions occur more frequently outside of an incoming post. lol

[Loujo]

Originally Posted by brandrea

As long as you still have a trusty mechanical watch as backup should the wearer suddenly lose battery power

I am curious though, do recreational divers or even professional divers always wear a mechanical watch during their dives as backup? I am not a diver, but I would feel more safe with a G Shock as my backup over a mechanical watch.

[alllexandru]

I just put me on pre-order when it arrives locally, curious to try this one.
Still on the SE for now

[Gebbeth]

Originally Posted by beshannon

That is the reason I am interested depending on the size, for mountain biking and exercise which is all I use my Apple watch for anyway.

Aren't there cheaper, more purposeful, options then? If you are using an Apple watch for those limited purposes, why get something so overstuffed with things you don't need?

[asiparks]

Originally Posted by INC

I think, you misd my original point, IMO to prove that an AW could work under the sea is not an argument for me.

The AW in itself a great tool, but not a watch, as to show the time is only a feature. In contrary the AW has several sensors which aren't working if you aren't using it directly on your skin. Most of all, if you wear gloves under the water or up in the hills. In these cases, you will not be able to use theese features, but in the same time you can still start accidentally another app and it follows that you can loose the control over the displayed information. Anyhow the touchscreens are working only fine if you use these with dry fingers. So I'm sceptic if the AW can really be used like the way as Apple advertised this model.

So in short, I'm not sure what Apple wanted to invent...

The sensors that you need for dive computer functionality do work on a wetsuit with zero skin contact, so I'm not sure what the issue is.
There is an additional "hard" button that's been designed for underwater use with out necessitating use of the touchscreen, and I'd imagine a "screen lock" is included.
If you absolutely must know your heart rate whilst diving, link it to a Polar or scosche.

Do you seriously think they didn't consult with divers whilst spending years developing the hard/software for this watch ? Maybe test it out underwater a bit to see how it worked ?
Some divers will trust it, some won't until it's been proven for years, but that's the nature of any new piece of tech.

[Gebbeth]

Again, not a diver, but I suspect there is a market for the casual/enthusiast diver that does scuba diving, cave diving, etc. and would be happy with the Ultra. We're not talking about professional or saturation divers that work on oil rigs or are researchers. I get it.

And of course, there are your GI Joe for the day divers who go 10 meters on their Hawaii vacation and think they went "diving". They will need to show off their next neat device.

HOWEVER, IF I was an enthusiast diver, I myself would invest in a dedicated dive computer. Nothing beats something purpose built to save your life.

Also, legibility. I'm sure that the Ultra will be visible in most diving situations. But something tells me that this would not be a go-to device in more murky situations.

Just in terms of comparison.