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Frank McKay · 19 October 2022, 03:35 AM

Dead ringer. Amazing. I never knew this. What reference is that Sub?? Thanks!!

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GolfJunkie · 19 October 2022, 04:15 AM

Maybe a 6538?

Tim Plains · 19 October 2022, 04:18 AM

So many posts here that BBs are not like the Submariner, yet there it is. That Rolex crown is huge.

Mendota · 19 October 2022, 04:45 AM

It's either a 6538 or a 5510. The 8mm crowns look massive on the 38mm case. They are my absolute grail pieces and if you go to the Rolex Passion Report website there are tons of exceptional articles devoted to the big crown subs and the evolution of the very early Submariners. They deep dive into the materials used, how they made the dials, the radium hands, how the very first iterations came about, etc. Tudor also had big crown subs, so their Black Bay 58 is actually a redesign of the first Tudor big crown, which itself was a redesign of the Rolex big crown. It had all Rolex parts except for the movement and dial, hands.

What's interesting is when you actually handle one of these early subs in person, all of those beautiful details with the gilt dial print and hands are so small so it's hard to really appreciate it in real life without magnification. The bracelet feels like a soda can and the watch head is really small. I haven't handled a big crown but I did have the chance to wear and handle a 6536 small crown Sub at my AD last summer. Those had a 6mm crown so they looked tiny.

There are several members here who own big crown subs and they are remarkable pieces.

garyk · 19 October 2022, 04:47 AM

Isn’t that the James Bond Submariner?

JMGoodnight369 · 19 October 2022, 04:53 AM

Yep that’s a 6538. Not mine in the photo but I got to play with one once and it’s something else to hold one of those. I just thought about how it was like holding the catalyst of the entire category of sports watches. You can see the DNA in everything now.

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domi1 · 19 October 2022, 07:24 AM

“the big crown submariner”

Frank McKay · 19 October 2022, 07:36 AM

To me it looks like this specific Tudor reference was designed to pay homage to this particular Rolex Sub reference. The resemblance is uncanny.

bay_area_kid · 19 October 2022, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank McKay

Dead ringer. Amazing. I never knew this. What reference is that Sub?? Thanks!!

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Interesting mod on the bottom of that Black Bay Fifty-Eight's dial!

TuRo · 19 October 2022, 06:19 PM

It's not any Rolex, it's a 50s 7924 Tudor big crown homage

Kingface66 · 19 October 2022, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank McKay

Dead ringer. Amazing. I never knew this. What reference is that Sub?? Thanks!!

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You probably never knew this because it’s not correct. The 58 is an homage to the the 1958 Tudor 7924.

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Mark020 · 19 October 2022, 10:09 PM

Exactly!

linesiders · 19 October 2022, 10:59 PM

Yep 7924 in Grail Condition ; )

19 October 2022, 03:35 AM	#1
Frank McKay "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,650	Tudor BB58 / Rolex Submariner ref.? Dead ringer. Amazing. I never knew this. What reference is that Sub?? Thanks!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 October 2022, 04:15 AM	#2
GolfJunkie 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Eric Location: USA Watch: 252 Posts: 5,103	Maybe a 6538? __________________ 2FA Enabled

19 October 2022, 04:47 AM	#5
garyk 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Gary Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 11,756	Isn’t that the James Bond Submariner? __________________

19 October 2022, 06:19 PM	#10
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,832	It's not any Rolex, it's a 50s 7924 Tudor big crown homage __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

19 October 2022, 10:59 PM	#13
linesiders 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,503	Yep 7924 in Grail Condition ; ) __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

19 October 2022, 04:18 AM	#3
Tim Plains "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: EST Watch: 126610LN Posts: 1,175	So many posts here that BBs are not like the Submariner, yet there it is. That Rolex crown is huge.

19 October 2022, 04:45 AM	#4
Mendota "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: MN Watch: OP36 Blue 3-6-9 Posts: 2,195	It's either a 6538 or a 5510. The 8mm crowns look massive on the 38mm case. They are my absolute grail pieces and if you go to the Rolex Passion Report website there are tons of exceptional articles devoted to the big crown subs and the evolution of the very early Submariners. They deep dive into the materials used, how they made the dials, the radium hands, how the very first iterations came about, etc. Tudor also had big crown subs, so their Black Bay 58 is actually a redesign of the first Tudor big crown, which itself was a redesign of the Rolex big crown. It had all Rolex parts except for the movement and dial, hands. What's interesting is when you actually handle one of these early subs in person, all of those beautiful details with the gilt dial print and hands are so small so it's hard to really appreciate it in real life without magnification. The bracelet feels like a soda can and the watch head is really small. I haven't handled a big crown but I did have the chance to wear and handle a 6536 small crown Sub at my AD last summer. Those had a 6mm crown so they looked tiny. There are several members here who own big crown subs and they are remarkable pieces.

19 October 2022, 04:53 AM	#6
JMGoodnight369 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Georgia USA Posts: 373	Yep that’s a 6538. Not mine in the photo but I got to play with one once and it’s something else to hold one of those. I just thought about how it was like holding the catalyst of the entire category of sports watches. You can see the DNA in everything now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 October 2022, 07:24 AM	#7
domi1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Real Name: Domi Location: Croatia Watch: 124060, BLRO... Posts: 323	“the big crown submariner”

19 October 2022, 07:36 AM	#8
Frank McKay "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,650	To me it looks like this specific Tudor reference was designed to pay homage to this particular Rolex Sub reference. The resemblance is uncanny.

19 October 2022, 10:09 PM	#12
Mark020 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 2,133	Exactly!

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