Picking up tomorrow. Anyway to not get a lemon?

[Seamaster59]

I don’t want 3200 problems. Just a lifelong friend.

[shaunylw]

No. There is nothing you can do unless they let you throw it on a timegrapher, even that wouldn’t be enough. Wear it, if it’s bad have it serviced.


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[csaltphoto]

Originally Posted by shaunylw

No. There is nothing you can do unless they let you throw it on a timegrapher, even that wouldn’t be enough. Wear it, if it’s bad have it serviced.


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I wouldn't buy any new watch without seeing it on a timegrapher tbh. Who wants a watch that is 10s/day slow out the door? Rolex (and the others in the range) by and large make a decent watch but why trust the vagaries of manufacture? It's like test driving a car. It's a big purchase so do your due diligence. These are not the perfect mechanical devices we hope they are. Yes, there are mostly very good. Yes, they have a good warranty. But I sure as heck want it running right when I buy it.

And this did come up with test driving a car once. I wanted to shop local so I went to a local dealer. This was some years ago but as I recall there was some weird suspension noise when making turns. I told the salesman straight out I'll buy the car but only if you get it in the shop and check out/fix what is making that noise. And he straight told me "no" but if there was a problem it would be fixed under warranty (Maybe, if it was a warranty fix. Suspension issues often are not covered). I was floored! Not to mention cars, and other mechanical devices with problems from the get go, often have other issues. I dumped that dealer and bought the identical car somewhere else.

Keep in mind if a watch has an issue Rolex has the "option" to fix it under warranty. They can also decide you somehow caused the problem by misuse or whatever. I love the brand but that doesn't stop me from treating it like any other expensive purchase and doing what I can to ensure I am getting what I am paying for.

[ArtNouveau]

Originally Posted by csaltphoto

I wouldn't buy any new watch without seeing it on a timegrapher tbh. Who wants a watch that is 10s/day slow out the door? Rolex (and the others in the range) by and large make a decent watch but why trust the vagaries of manufacture? It's like test driving a car. It's a big purchase so do your due diligence. These are not the perfect mechanical devices we hope they are. Yes, there are mostly very good. Yes, they have a good warranty. But I sure as heck want it running right when I buy it.

And this did come up with test driving a car once. I wanted to shop local so I went to a local dealer. This was some years ago but as I recall there was some weird suspension noise when making turns. I told the salesman straight out I'll buy the car but only if you get it in the shop and check out/fix what is making that noise. And he straight told me "no" but if there was a problem it would be fixed under warranty (Maybe, if it was a warranty fix. Suspension issues often are not covered). I was floored! Not to mention cars, and other mechanical devices with problems from the get go, often have other issues. I dumped that dealer and bought the identical car somewhere else.

And you have actually found a Rolex AD(or any other brand for that matter)that A. Has a tech on duty, B. Has a timegrapher, and C. Agrees to take a brand new watch out of its coffin and test it for you?
I would think 99% of watch dealers would simply say no.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

And you have actually found a Rolex AD(or any other brand for that matter)that A. Has a tech on duty, B. Has a timegrapher, and C. Agrees to take a brand new watch out of its coffin and test it for you?
I would think 99% of watch dealers would simply say no.

Agree. Getting a new watch tested before sale is not feasible.

[chris242]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

Agree. Getting a new watch tested before sale is not feasible.

This


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[csaltphoto]

Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

And you have actually found a Rolex AD(or any other brand for that matter)that A. Has a tech on duty, B. Has a timegrapher, and C. Agrees to take a brand new watch out of its coffin and test it for you?
I would think 99% of watch dealers would simply say no.

I'd ask to use the app on my phone then. Yeah, it's not perfect but it is surprisingly close to a real timegrapher. Certainly close enough to discern large timekeeping/amplitude/BE issues. I'm frankly surprised AD's don't test the watches that come in before they sell them.

[chris242]

Originally Posted by csaltphoto

I'd ask to use the app on my phone then. Yeah, it's not perfect but it is surprisingly close to a real timegrapher. Certainly close enough to discern large timekeeping/amplitude/BE issues. I'm frankly surprised AD's don't test the watches that come in before they sell them.

Have you done this at an AD before?


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[goldboy]

Originally Posted by csaltphoto

I wouldn't buy any new watch without seeing it on a timegrapher tbh. Who wants a watch that is 10s/day slow out the door? Rolex (and the others in the range) by and large make a decent watch but why trust the vagaries of manufacture? It's like test driving a car. It's a big purchase so do your due diligence. These are not the perfect mechanical devices we hope they are. Yes, there are mostly very good. Yes, they have a good warranty. But I sure as heck want it running right when I buy it.

And this did come up with test driving a car once. I wanted to shop local so I went to a local dealer. This was some years ago but as I recall there was some weird suspension noise when making turns. I told the salesman straight out I'll buy the car but only if you get it in the shop and check out/fix what is making that noise. And he straight told me "no" but if there was a problem it would be fixed under warranty (Maybe, if it was a warranty fix. Suspension issues often are not covered). I was floored! Not to mention cars, and other mechanical devices with problems from the get go, often have other issues. I dumped that dealer and bought the identical car somewhere else.

Keep in mind if a watch has an issue Rolex has the "option" to fix it under warranty. They can also decide you somehow caused the problem by misuse or whatever. I love the brand but that doesn't stop me from treating it like any other expensive purchase and doing what I can to ensure I am getting what I am paying for.

Sorry this doesn’t work at 99% of AD’s, especially in EU

[Jack T]

Originally Posted by csaltphoto

I wouldn't buy any new watch without seeing it on a timegrapher tbh. Who wants a watch that is 10s/day slow out the door? Rolex (and the others in the range) by and large make a decent watch but why trust the vagaries of manufacture? It's like test driving a car. It's a big purchase so do your due diligence. These are not the perfect mechanical devices we hope they are. Yes, there are mostly very good. Yes, they have a good warranty. But I sure as heck want it running right when I buy it.

And this did come up with test driving a car once. I wanted to shop local so I went to a local dealer. This was some years ago but as I recall there was some weird suspension noise when making turns. I told the salesman straight out I'll buy the car but only if you get it in the shop and check out/fix what is making that noise. And he straight told me "no" but if there was a problem it would be fixed under warranty (Maybe, if it was a warranty fix. Suspension issues often are not covered). I was floored! Not to mention cars, and other mechanical devices with problems from the get go, often have other issues. I dumped that dealer and bought the identical car somewhere else.

Keep in mind if a watch has an issue Rolex has the "option" to fix it under warranty. They can also decide you somehow caused the problem by misuse or whatever. I love the brand but that doesn't stop me from treating it like any other expensive purchase and doing what I can to ensure I am getting what I am paying for.

“Why of course sir, we’ll be happy to do so. And you are first on yet another list that we keep in this shop. I’ll be sure to give you a call. Guard?”

[HiBoost]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Don't worry, you'll likely only have one or two problems. I believe 3200 would be very unusual.

That was pretty good, man!

Originally Posted by csaltphoto

I'd ask to use the app on my phone then. Yeah, it's not perfect but it is surprisingly close to a real timegrapher. Certainly close enough to discern large timekeeping/amplitude/BE issues. I'm frankly surprised AD's don't test the watches that come in before they sell them.

You are very unlikely to spot any timing issues on a new watch. The factory performs their extended timing tests in order to get the COSC rating. What you could see, however, is low amplitude. I don't believe the factory tests for this, or more accurately, that it is a component of the COSC certification.

The 32xx will still run quite well even when amplitude is not what it should be. But then as the amplitude degrades even further, that's where the trouble starts. My brand new Sub was low on amplitude from day 1, but the timing is great. Still, IF (and I agree it's unlikely) you have an opportunity to test prior to purchase I'd say the following:

Full wind (like 80 winds) dial up, amplitude should be in the 270s after settling for a minute or two. If the amplitude only peaks in the 250s I'd be leery. To be clear, 270s on day 1 doesn't mean that you are safe forever. But I'd argue if you are notably less than that the issue is already presenting itself.

By the way, a normal, non-Rolex AD would have no issue with timegrapher testing a new watch prior to purchase. They know as well as anybody that these are mechanical things and they aren't always right. Unfortunately, in the current market, we are supposed to be so thankful just to have the opportunity to buy a Rolex that it would seem bizarre to ask. My AD for JLC, Omega, Cartier, etc would have zero issue doing this upon request.

[Old Expat Beast]

#fingerscrossed

[Oystersteel92]

Originally Posted by Seamaster59

I don’t want 3200 problems. Just a lifelong friend.

Yes, some people have had problems with this movement, but think how many Rolex has sold since 2015 when it debuted and now. You'll very likely be fine.

After 8 months mine is the far and away the most accurate mechanical timepiece I've ever owned. It puts the 4130 in my Daytona to shame.

[Harry-57]

If the movement succumbs to the 32X wear issue it won't be showing the signs when new. If the issue develops, it is likely to do it in 1-3 years post purchase. This assumes you are buying new.

Getting it fixed under the initial 5 year warranty won't be an issue but it's the post five year life that could be more difficult, if Rolex replace parts that are knackered through poor design/manufacture as service items and pass the cost on to the owner. You'll only know this for sure if you end up there. You may not, your watch could be just fine. Many 32 based movements are running faultlessly.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Seamaster59

I don’t want 3200 problems. Just a lifelong friend.

Don't worry, you'll likely only have one or two problems. I believe 3200 would be very unusual. Congratulations on the new watch!!!

[garyk]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Don't worry, you'll likely only have one or two problems. I believe 3200 would be very unusual. Congratulations on the new watch!!!

1 or 2 problems, lol….

[Coronette]

Yes, don’t buy it.

[amh]

Is it a BLNR? Sell it to me, I'll take it.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by Coronette

Yes, don’t buy it.

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[m j b]

You two (Lee & Coronette) are sharp this morning!

I concur though-if you're that worried, take a pass. You may never get over it.

[Seamaster59]

Ok got it. Pics incoming.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Seamaster59

Ok got it. Pics incoming.

Can't wait to see it!!! Again, congratulations!!!

[Chewbacca]

It comes with a warranty for a reason.

Congratulations

[SLWoodster]

Just don’t buy it. Scared of the cost of ownership, let it go

[S7gpt]

ive got the 3235 movement, a year old and worn every day, over the last week its lost 1.7 seconds a day - very happy with that

[rmlovett1]

Hope you’re enjoying your new watch! Congrats!

[Rolex1982]

Congrats! Wear it and love it!

[brandrea]

Congratulations and post pictures when you can