Father in Law’s Rolex - Genuine or Fake?

[SeyRolex]

Hello all,

I’m new to the forum and must admit I know only a little about watches, but because of that my Father in Law who doesn’t know how to use a computer has asked me to try and find out a little about his.

If I remember correctly he got it a few decades ago. He works with cars in a scrapyard and if a car comes to him with stuff still inside he can keep it.

I’ll just add some pictures, I guess my opinion of whether it is genuine or not is a bit irrelevant, but he thinks it’s real but it just didn’t sit right with me. There is some damage to the face watch, it’s missing the word Rolex on the face and also seems odd someone wouldn’t have come back and said I’ve lost my Rolex!

[rambo99]

lol.

[dseig001]

This is a joke, right?

[Tim Plains]

He should have left that in the car.

[Harry-57]

Removing that from the car would have doubled the value of the car.

This year we seem to have fast forwarded from Boxing Day to April 1st.

[77T]

I guess you can tell from the replies thus far, it doesn’t sit right with others too.

No, it’s not a real Rolex. We don’t really go into more detail than that.


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[Agamemnon]

It has a gorgeous aventurine dial!

[Number3]

Originally Posted by Tim Plains

He should have left that in the car.

[beshannon]

Welcome to the forum

[SeyRolex]

Thank you for the replies everyone (I know they are tongue in cheek but I thought it wasn’t real but he wasn’t so sure)!

As I said I really know nothing.

Is there anything specifically I can point out to him (or a few things) to show him it isn’t real?

[SeyRolex]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Welcome to the forum

Thank you! I do appreciate the speed of the responses too.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by SeyRolex

Is there anything specifically I can point out to him (or a few things) to show him it isn’t real?

Visit https://www.rolex.com/en-us

[Harry-57]

We don't go into details as mentioned above. That way, the thread doesn't turn into a coaching session on how to improve a fake. Although in this instance the fake could probably be improved by hitting it with a lump hammer.

Any local watchmaker should be able to give your father a proper appraisal.

[SeyRolex]

I fully understand. Well as I said I do actually appreciate you all telling me, as even though it’s obvious to you all for someone completely uninitiated (myself and my father in law) it isn’t so blatantly obvious.

Ill break the news to him then.

[JDsnewwatch]

OMG! He has the ever-elusive "no-words" dial! And you thought Red Rolexes were rare!

[Tanalasta]

Originally Posted by SeyRolex

Thank you for the replies everyone (I know they are tongue in cheek but I thought it wasn’t real but he wasn’t so sure)!

As I said I really know nothing.

Is there anything specifically I can point out to him (or a few things) to show him it isn’t real?

Compare your photos with a genuine watch from the same era. Or explore YouTube for explanatory video comparisons.

It should be easy enough.

Unless there is a really good reason not to, the watch belongs in the trash can.


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[HogwldFLTR]

Really looks like a POC.

[dlrolex]

Vintage

[gerry100]

bracelet could be genuine

[Lesnerelli23]

I would take it somewhere to have it looked at.

Besides the dial, I’m not seeing what everyone else seems to think is so obvious…

Some parts look spot on to me


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[SeyRolex]

Originally Posted by gerry100

bracelet could be genuine

When I tried to do some research myself it seemed the watch was fake but I did think the bracelet wasn’t so obviously fake? That was only from comparing pictures online.

Is that a common thing, for people to attach a face watch to a real bracelet to make it seem more real overall? Based on the other comments it sounds like this is so fake that that would be a waste of time and money?

Any info is welcome, as I don’t want him throwing it all away if the bracelet could be real.

[sski]

nice Brolex!

[Incroyable12]

It's a tropical dial.

[cht]

Looks gen to me. Has a replaced aftermarket dial which is common with these watches.

I see an old beat up genuine datejust with the original engine turned bezel, original crown, original 62510 bracelet with some stretch, and a typical crappy aftermarket dial.
Not sure why everyone is dismissing it so quickly. Shrugs.

[Andad]

Do you have a pix of the movement?

[interestedwatcher]

Originally Posted by cht

Looks gen to me. Has a replaced aftermarket dial which is common with these watches.

I see an old beat up genuine datejust with the original engine turned bezel, original crown, original 62510 bracelet with some stretch, and a typical crappy aftermarket dial.
Not sure why everyone is dismissing it so quickly. Shrugs.

Yeah- I’d be wanting to have the casback off before turfing - could just be a beat up 4 digit DJ

[SeyRolex]

Originally Posted by interestedwatcher

Yeah- I’d be wanting to have the casback off before turfing - could just be a beat up 4 digit DJ

I couldn’t get off the back so I am trying to buy a tool on eBay to do so, then perhaps I could add pictures of the movement.

[SeyRolex]

Originally Posted by cht

Looks gen to me. Has a replaced aftermarket dial which is common with these watches.

I see an old beat up genuine datejust with the original engine turned bezel, original crown, original 62510 bracelet with some stretch, and a typical crappy aftermarket dial.
Not sure why everyone is dismissing it so quickly. Shrugs.

Interesting - I guess the only way I’d be able to tell is have it appraised. Is this something that can be done by a general watch seller (higher end one) or would you have to specifically go to a Rolex specialist? I’m just not really sure how many options there are in our area.

Thank you again everyone for the replies, it’s interesting the different opinions on it (and I have to say a little bewildering).

[SeyRolex]

Originally Posted by Andad

Do you have a pix of the movement?

Hopefully I can get some if I can open the back, may take a new days for the tool to arrive. Any video I found online or how to open without the correct tool just doesn’t work (lots of people say use a bouncy ball or something of that ilk).

It isn’t currently working and the crown seems to not want to turn, it does to change the date but that’s all.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by SeyRolex

Hopefully I can get some if I can open the back, may take a new days for the tool to arrive. Any video I found online or how to open without the correct tool just doesn’t work (lots of people say use a bouncy ball or something of that ilk).

It isn’t currently working and the crown seems to not want to turn, it does to change the date but that’s all.

I, too, would like to see inside. Try and find someone with a tool, some local watch repairer, rather than try it yourself.

I'm moving this over to the Vintage section for some more helpful/informed advice.