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Dayhvac · 9 February 2023, 10:56 AM

So interested in a 5164a. My long time Patek dealer no longer sells Patek. So starting over from square one. Will be about impossible to get one from another AD. Market had cooled some. Do you see it coming down another 20-30%? Or leveling out

5164 is hovering $65-80k on secondary market now.

Thanks James

jgottsman11 · 9 February 2023, 11:04 AM

steel version will be $50-60 in no time

7sins · 9 February 2023, 03:09 PM

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steel version will be $50-60 in no time

Agreed, seeing them in the low 60s on Moda.

Does anyone remember what they traded pre watch hype?

HMHM · 9 February 2023, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 7sins

Agreed, seeing them in the low 60s on Moda.

Does anyone remember what they traded pre watch hype?

I think they are back to where they are Pre-covid. Maybe 10% to go down.

GB-man · 10 February 2023, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 7sins

Agreed, seeing them in the low 60s on Moda.

Does anyone remember what they traded pre watch hype?

I sold mine summer 2021 before stuff went nuts around 53k. It was 2018 excellent condition complete.

Dayhvac · 10 February 2023, 09:37 AM

A lot still sitting in the mid 70s, but doesn't seem to be moving fast. I know won't get at retail. But upper 50s low 60s would do it

robertengel · 10 February 2023, 06:47 PM

The retail for the watch is now 42+tax, in 2020 it was in the low 30s for retail, I think it's unlikely that it would sit in the 50s for a long time. But that being said I am biased towards it.

jcatral14 · 10 February 2023, 11:29 PM

Damn, I remember being able to get it for around $30k in 2016

Rushne · 11 February 2023, 12:09 AM

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Damn, I remember being able to get it for around $30k in 2016

Same. Current retail is actually a bit insane tbh

seadubs · 11 February 2023, 12:13 AM

Get a 2020+ for 60-65 and you are in good shape

Dayhvac · 11 February 2023, 12:24 AM

Guys still asking $70k plus for 2020-2021 Will have to wait it out a little longer

WatchingAustin · 11 February 2023, 02:31 AM

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Damn, I remember being able to get it for around $30k in 2016

I got a discount on mine in 2017, $30K from the dealer! Heck, the 15202 and FBJ CB were both under MSRP grey as well! I don't think a 5164 will fall under MSRP unless we see all big watches start going under MSRP (5711, 15202, etc.).

WHSclub · 14 February 2023, 04:05 AM

Does the production year matter much in regards to price? 2011 vs 2018+?

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KVNNSCHNG · 14 February 2023, 04:20 AM

Yes… Newer = More Expensive.

WHSclub · 14 February 2023, 05:10 AM

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Yes… Newer = More Expensive.

Is there a rough estimated % or $ difference?

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Apheaven · 14 February 2023, 09:11 AM

I do know of a 2020 that sold for $63k and 2021 that sold for $64k. Both of these were sold about a month ago…

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sigma089 · 14 February 2023, 07:43 PM

2022+ models have the "new" 26-330 movement in them with hacking feature. If you are able to get one of these, I'd prioritize them over earlier ones.

I also believe they won't be falling to pre-covid levels, simply due to the fact, that they are now substantially more expensive at retail. They were at 34k (EUR) if memory serves me correct pre early 2022 price increase. Now almost 42k here in Germany.

Dayhvac · 14 February 2023, 10:26 PM

Why was this moved to Watch out section?

EEpro · 14 February 2023, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayhvac

Why was this moved to Watch out section?

There are forum rules against price / what it's worth threads.

beshannon · 14 February 2023, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayhvac

Why was this moved to Watch out section?

Because it is about price speculation

WHSclub · 15 February 2023, 01:54 AM

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I do know of a 2020 that sold for $63k and 2021 that sold for $64k. Both of these were sold about a month ago…

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Would you mind sharing the dealer that sold them? I’m looking for one. Thanks

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9 February 2023, 10:56 AM	#1
Dayhvac 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY Posts: 161	Market 5164a So interested in a 5164a. My long time Patek dealer no longer sells Patek. So starting over from square one. Will be about impossible to get one from another AD. Market had cooled some. Do you see it coming down another 20-30%? Or leveling out 5164 is hovering $65-80k on secondary market now. Thanks James

9 February 2023, 11:04 AM	#2
jgottsman11 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: wHerE do U liv Watch: 5164R Posts: 1,450	steel version will be $50-60 in no time __________________ 5164R Aquanaut "Tiffany & Co" 18238 Champagne Day Date

10 February 2023, 11:29 PM	#8
jcatral14 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Jay Location: NJ Watch: aholic Posts: 726	Damn, I remember being able to get it for around $30k in 2016 __________________ -Jay

14 February 2023, 04:20 AM	#14
KVNNSCHNG "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 486	Yes… Newer = More Expensive. __________________ Instagram: KVNNSCHNG - Current: 116500LN, 116610LV, 5167A, 126710BLRO, 126710BLNR, 124300 CORAL, 126720VTNR

10 February 2023, 09:37 AM	#6
Dayhvac 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY Posts: 161	A lot still sitting in the mid 70s, but doesn't seem to be moving fast. I know won't get at retail. But upper 50s low 60s would do it

10 February 2023, 06:47 PM	#7
robertengel "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Budapest Posts: 189	The retail for the watch is now 42+tax, in 2020 it was in the low 30s for retail, I think it's unlikely that it would sit in the 50s for a long time. But that being said I am biased towards it.

11 February 2023, 12:13 AM	#10
seadubs "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 260	Get a 2020+ for 60-65 and you are in good shape

11 February 2023, 12:24 AM	#11
Dayhvac 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY Posts: 161	Guys still asking $70k plus for 2020-2021 Will have to wait it out a little longer

14 February 2023, 04:05 AM	#13
WHSclub "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: arizona Posts: 129	Does the production year matter much in regards to price? 2011 vs 2018+? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

14 February 2023, 09:11 AM	#16
Apheaven "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: SF Posts: 589	I do know of a 2020 that sold for $63k and 2021 that sold for $64k. Both of these were sold about a month ago… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

14 February 2023, 07:43 PM	#17
sigma089 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Germany Watch: Rolex, GS, PP Posts: 193	2022+ models have the "new" 26-330 movement in them with hacking feature. If you are able to get one of these, I'd prioritize them over earlier ones. I also believe they won't be falling to pre-covid levels, simply due to the fact, that they are now substantially more expensive at retail. They were at 34k (EUR) if memory serves me correct pre early 2022 price increase. Now almost 42k here in Germany.

14 February 2023, 10:26 PM	#18
Dayhvac 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY Posts: 161	Why was this moved to Watch out section?

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