116520 Without rehaut or with rehaut

[HMHM]

I'm in the market for a 116520.
May I ask which is preferable as the title suggest:
Without rehaut or with rehaut?
I think rehaut is post 2007?
I saw one recently that has been serviced. MY 2005 but wondering if I should continue searching until a suitable rehaut one appears.
Thanks

[EvelynWaugh]

Id recommend searching for a good example with modern clasp and blue lume, unpolished.

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by EvelynWaugh

Id recommend searching for a good example with modern clasp and blue lume, unpolished.

Thank you. I will keep that in mind.

Originally Posted by indianmachine

well both have rehaut, but one is not engraved.

Don't think it really matters and would pick the better condition example.

Also not sure if you're also considering 16520, but definitely would recommend over the 116520.
r

At the moment, no. The plan is to gradually work backwards, starting from the 116520 first. I agree on the condition, but the the main thing that worries me is the bracelet on the pre-engraving 116520. It lacks the intricacy of the engraved rehaut 116520. I also feel that the inner engraving really defines modern day Rolex. However, it comes at a premium of 2-3k over the non-engraved rehaut.
Just wondering if I should just settle for the non-rehaut and close the case.

[indianmachine]

well both have rehaut, but one is not engraved.

Don't think it really matters and would pick the better condition example.

Also not sure if you're also considering 16520, but definitely would recommend over the 116520.
r

[*M5]

Originally Posted by indianmachine

well both have rehaut, but one is not engraved.

Don't think it really matters and would pick the better condition example.

Also not sure if you're also considering 16520, but definitely would recommend over the 116520.
r

What exactly makes you say that? Is the 16520 really that much better than the 116520?

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[swish77]

Originally Posted by HMHM

Thanks for the replies.
I have attached a picture below of a watch I’m considering.

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That case is way over-polished. Look how thin the top right lug is, and those poor crown guards. (From the factory, the right-side lugs are always a little thinner than the left anyway, but it’s been made worse by a poor polishing job in this case.)

I’d vote for the cleaner look of a non-engraved rehaut, but overall condition is far more important.

Originally Posted by *M5

Is the 16520 really that much better than the 116520?

Yes. Much more collectible, and considered vintage/classic. Symmetrical sub-dials. The hands and hour markers are more elegant. Tritium that can patina. Sub-dials that patina on the black dials. Historically important as Rolex’s first automatic Daytona.

That said, you need to be into those qualities and be willing to pay a premium for them. Some guys prefer a more modern Daytona, and that’s OK too.

[rockysw]

I dont think it really matters. The condition is the most important thing. I would prefer a non-rehaut good condition watch over a rehaut watch in not as good condition.

I have one with rehaut but that was mainly because I found one in good condition near where I level. Its an amazing watch, you are not going to regret either way.

[karleone]

Originally Posted by rockysw

I dont think it really matters. The condition is the most important thing. I would prefer a non-rehaut good condition watch over a rehaut watch in not as good condition.

I have one with rehaut but that was mainly because I found one in good condition near where I level. Its an amazing watch, you are not going to regret either way.

Exactly! I would try to find one with good condition and unpolished. Repolished 116520s never look very good (rounded polished lugs and repolished bezels don't look good)

[Polyesterpig]

The most important thing to me was getting the in-house movement in the Daytona. Still surprised the Zenith movement commands a higher price. I’m guessing it won’t be that way forever. I remember when the black dialed 116520 Daytonas were selling higher than the white dials.

[SS Oyster]

Originally Posted by Polyesterpig

I remember when the black dialed 116520 Daytonas were selling higher than the white dials.

I much prefer the black dial 116520 over the white dial.

[Gab27]

I don't know which is more preferable/desirable, but, to me, the Rolex rehaut engraving is one of those small things Rolex does that contributes to the impressiveness of the overall watch. It is impressively precise engraving that speaks to me about Rolex manufacturing capabilities, where a part with a very specific purpose is also extremely pleasing from its uniformity.

[EvelynWaugh]

These are pics of my 116520 I posted recently on another Daytona thread. This one is dated 2016 (rehaut, blue lume, modern clasp, APH)

Engraved rehaut started about 2008 and around the same time they transitioned to the modern clasp and only the very last ones made from late 2015-2016 has the high polish on the inner clasp.

As suggested before, I'd definitely try to find one that is unpolished... Life of a non-ceramic Daytona are told by the bezel.. And personally I prefer 116520 which has the look and feel of a modern day Rolex with in-house movement over the older Zenith 16520's with rattly bracelet.
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[SS Oyster]

I would not focus on a single thing like ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX engraving on the rehaut ring. I would consider your long term goals. If you have or are going to get a 116500, then I'd be looking for more variety ... so I'd go opposite dial color, no rehaut engraving, etc. That said, the driver for me would be more about condition without going crazy for a fully taped model.

[HMHM]

Thanks for the replies.
I have attached a picture below of a watch I’m considering.
It’s been serviced at RSC recently. MY 2005. I was told the bezel has been replaced. Let me know your thoughts.

With regards to black or white dial, tbh I have a preference for black dials. But the white 520 looks great as well. So it all depends condition and pricing. I would prefer one with engraved rehaut, but the one in the picture doesn’t have it. Old style clasp with green lume on this.

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by HMHM

Thanks for the replies.
I have attached a picture below of a watch I’m considering.
It’s been serviced at RSC recently. MY 2005. I was told the bezel has been replaced. Let me know your thoughts.

With regards to black or white dial, tbh I have a preference for black dials. But the white 520 looks great as well. So it all depends condition and pricing. I would prefer one with engraved rehaut, but the one in the picture doesn’t have it. Old style clasp with green lume on this.

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No way on that one. It's been rounded off badly IMO.

[Tools]

"preference" is personal and not a value or collectability trait with the Daytona.

Get the one that you want in the best condition that you are willing to pay.

[karleone]

Originally Posted by HMHM

Thanks for the replies.
I have attached a picture below of a watch I’m considering.
It’s been serviced at RSC recently. MY 2005. I was told the bezel has been replaced. Let me know your thoughts.

With regards to black or white dial, tbh I have a preference for black dials. But the white 520 looks great as well. So it all depends condition and pricing. I would prefer one with engraved rehaut, but the one in the picture doesn’t have it. Old style clasp with green lume on this.

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Avoid this one and try to find one in a better condition! The polishing job is very bad look at how the lugs are rounded...

[fskywalker]

Like rehaut, but not a deciding factor specially if adds $2-3K as you pointed out


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[huba01]

Having a 2003 116520 White dial for Many years, I´m in the market for a Black dial.
For me the condition and full set is paramount and more than year, lume, engraved rehaut or new style clasp.

[Laostuh]

I prefer engraved over non engraved.

[HMHM]

Thanks for the advice! I will continue looking for one. After reading more, I think I will look for one that is post 2010 with engraved rehaut, new clasp and better condition. Hopefully the price will come down slightly as the ones that fit the criteria are above £20k currently. My budget is approx 20k, but ultimately depends on what appears.

[cts]

2015/2016 White 116520 with chromolight (blue) lume and APH dial for me…

[Beto737]

I have a black 116520, and yes, those lugs on that picture look a bit too round.