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Old 19 April 2023, 03:45 AM   #1
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Sub and GMT

So I have cracked on contacted AD to get “on list” for a Submariner 124060. I got a GMT from same AD in December, so hoping wait won’t be terribly long.

So do many people have both a GMT and Sub? As a diver, I like the functionality of both watches, but am I crazy given they appear so similar as rotating bezel Rolex?

My GMT and photo of old Sub for reference, because why not?
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Old 19 April 2023, 03:51 AM   #2
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For the people who own both a ceramic Sub and a ceramic GMT, one thing I'd like to hear is their perspectives on how much they miss not having glidelock on the GMT. I'm not fortunate enough to own a GMT but I do find the easylink in my Explorer's bracelet lacking in comparison to the glidelock of my Sub at times. Seems like a GMT would be more top heavy than my Explorer.
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Old 19 April 2023, 04:20 AM   #3
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For the people who own both a ceramic Sub and a ceramic GMT, one thing I'd like to hear is their perspectives on how much they miss not having glidelock on the GMT. I'm not fortunate enough to own a GMT but I do find the easylink in my Explorer's bracelet lacking in comparison to the glidelock of my Sub at times. Seems like a GMT would be more top heavy than my Explorer.
I have both a 124060 and 126710BLRO (on Oyster bracelet) and I do miss the glidelock when I wear the GMT. Despite this, I have been wearing my GMT 95% of the time since I got it in October last year. I underestimated how much I would enjoy having the date, so it is worth having the easy link over the glidelock to have the date.

When I do pop the Sub on, it does feel amazing with the longer clasp and glidelock. Maybe if the honeymoon phase of the GMT ends, I’ll go back to wearing the Sub most of the time.

Not sure I’m much help here, ha.
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Old 19 April 2023, 04:22 AM   #4
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I have both a 124060 and 126710BLRO (on Oyster bracelet) and I do miss the glidelock when I wear the GMT. Despite this, I have been wearing my GMT 95% of the time since I got it in October last year. I underestimated how much I would enjoy having the date, so it is worth having the easy link over the glidelock to have the date.

When I do pop the Sub on, it does feel amazing with the longer clasp and glidelock. Maybe if the honeymoon phase of the GMT ends, I’ll go back to wearing the Sub most of the time.

Not sure I’m much help here, ha.
This actually helps a lot, thanks. I am on "the list" for your exact GMT - BLRO on oyster. It's great to hear your perspective.
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Old 19 April 2023, 06:04 AM   #5
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For the people who own both a ceramic Sub and a ceramic GMT, one thing I'd like to hear is their perspectives on how much they miss not having glidelock on the GMT. I'm not fortunate enough to own a GMT but I do find the easylink in my Explorer's bracelet lacking in comparison to the glidelock of my Sub at times. Seems like a GMT would be more top heavy than my Explorer.
I suspect I'm in the minority but I don't miss the glidelock. The Easylink is enough, and I found myself very rarely fiddling with the glidelock anyway. Also balancing this out was that I found the GMT to be a slightly more comfortable and less top-heavy watch than the Sub.

I've owned the 214270 in the past, and the GMT is definitely more top heavy than that watch, but it's hard to touch the comfort of the 39mm Exp as you probably know.
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Old 19 April 2023, 06:10 PM   #6
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For the people who own both a ceramic Sub and a ceramic GMT, one thing I'd like to hear is their perspectives on how much they miss not having glidelock on the GMT. I'm not fortunate enough to own a GMT but I do find the easylink in my Explorer's bracelet lacking in comparison to the glidelock of my Sub at times. Seems like a GMT would be more top heavy than my Explorer.
I own a few Subs and a few GMTs and the Sub is more comfortable.
The glidelock makes the difference and should be introduced to all models in my opinion.
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Old 20 April 2023, 04:41 PM   #7
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For the people who own both a ceramic Sub and a ceramic GMT, one thing I'd like to hear is their perspectives on how much they miss not having glidelock on the GMT. I'm not fortunate enough to own a GMT but I do find the easylink in my Explorer's bracelet lacking in comparison to the glidelock of my Sub at times. Seems like a GMT would be more top heavy than my Explorer.
I have ceramic subs and ceramic GMTs in my collection.
I’ve never struggled without glidelock, and actually rarely ever use the glidelock.

Easy link for me is more than enough.

In an ideal world all would have some sort of glidelock system, but it’s not a deal breaker for me.
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Old 21 April 2023, 09:32 AM   #8
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For the people who own both a ceramic Sub and a ceramic GMT, one thing I'd like to hear is their perspectives on how much they miss not having glidelock on the GMT. I'm not fortunate enough to own a GMT but I do find the easylink in my Explorer's bracelet lacking in comparison to the glidelock of my Sub at times. Seems like a GMT would be more top heavy than my Explorer.

Zero. Once the bracelet fits. It fits. Especially the jubilee. I wear the sub much more though


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Old 21 April 2023, 11:00 AM   #9
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Zero. Once the bracelet fits. It fits. Especially the jubilee. I wear the sub much more though


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Old 19 April 2023, 03:51 AM   #10
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The sub is the watch that got me into Rolex (it was a 116610LN). I liked it so much that I bought a GMT (because I thought that I wanted to have “more of the same”).

In the end, I underestimated how big the numerals on the bezel of the GMT were. The prints on the Submariner is smaller, and makes the watch looks like “finer watch” than the GMT. This made me realize I actually liked the Submariner more. YMMV
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Old 19 April 2023, 03:52 AM   #11
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I would think a lot of members will have a Sub and a GMT. You will not be alone!
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Old 19 April 2023, 03:56 AM   #12
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It is a hard pairing to beat for sure! GMT has been getting most of the wrist time the last few months...
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Old 19 April 2023, 06:12 AM   #13
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It is a hard pairing to beat for sure! GMT has been getting most of the wrist time the last few months...



Very nice photo (and watches too of course)!
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Old 20 April 2023, 08:06 AM   #14
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It is a hard pairing to beat for sure! GMT has been getting most of the wrist time the last few months...
This is a great pair. I have the Cermit and the Batgirl.
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Old 21 April 2023, 11:19 AM   #15
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It is a hard pairing to beat for sure! GMT has been getting most of the wrist time the last few months...

That’s quite a combo right there.


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Old 19 April 2023, 04:01 AM   #16
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I'm sure non-watch-enthusiasts might wonder why you've, "Two of roughly the same watch?"

But on this forum?

Two sensational beauties that couldn't be more different from one another.
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Old 19 April 2023, 04:05 AM   #17
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…. that couldn't be more different from one another.
I have to disagree here. They are actually very similar from the point of view of the average joe on the street. In a world where everyone has a collection of Rolex watches (like the TRF echo chamber), I’m with you.
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Old 19 April 2023, 04:26 AM   #18
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I'm sure non-watch-enthusiasts might wonder why you've, "Two of roughly the same watch?"

But on this forum?

Two sensational beauties that couldn't be more different from one another.
Kinda agree with you. Granted I’m guilty when it comes to Subs owning like watches. I like to mix up SS and PM to add variety. Never in my life owned a SS GMT. Would I? Idk. Maybe.
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Old 19 April 2023, 04:25 AM   #19
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Sub fan first and foremost but love them both. Have the 12LV.

Agree with what some of the others have said on this thread - I prefer the sub bezel and the glidelock. GMT is a little too loud for me for daily wear, and it comes down to the large font on the bezel and the PCLs.

Would like to add a Pepsi someday and I get why you would also want to own both, but I am in no rush. I think you would enjoy wearing that 124060 though...
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Old 19 April 2023, 04:33 AM   #20
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Definitely for me. BLRO and 124060.
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Old 19 April 2023, 04:49 AM   #21
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I had an 114060 for a while but for me It really just didn’t get the wrist time it deserved. I just love the date function best and the 16610 continues to check all the boxes. Hope to pick up a 126610 at some point. I haven’t yet had the chance to put one on the wrist to see how it sits but it sure is beautiful. The GMT was a no brainer for me had to have one in the collection. I went with the BLRO and my father went with the BLNR, He also has 16613 Sub. I think both are at home in any collection.
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Old 19 April 2023, 05:11 AM   #22
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I am a sub lover myself and found the 5 digit Pepsi option to be a perfect marriage. I honestly prefer the 5 digit models anyway because it is more sport than the dressier 12 imo. I think a 16700 on jubilee would create some variance between the two. Overall my answer is yes, they can coexist.
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Old 19 April 2023, 05:32 AM   #23
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To me, they are the 2 “must have” Rolex and the ones I was constantly exposed to as a young man. Additionally, they’re both equally worthy of handing down to my boys when my time has passed. They’re the two watches I won’t part with either.
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I've had both at various points in my collection journey. Most recently it was a 126610, 126710 BLRN, and BLRO. I sold the 126610, although I suspect a Sub will end up back in my collection some day.

They are visually and functionally different enough to own both, no doubt. I'd say a BLRO with the Sub would probably pair better than the BLNR.

I used that same logic to sell the Sub and keep the BLNR. The BLNR is a bit more precious to me personally, and I found it paired well enough with the BLRO to keep both. I may end up selling the BLRO sometime in the future though. I do find the BLNR splits the difference nicely with aspects of both watches.
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Old 19 April 2023, 06:02 AM   #25
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My GMT and photo of old Sub for reference, because why not?
Why not indeed.

Works for me.

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Old 19 April 2023, 06:03 AM   #26
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They are fine together. Only reason I got rid of the BLNR was the supercase. Will jump back in MAYBE when they upgrade.
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Old 19 April 2023, 06:17 AM   #27
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They are fine together. Only reason I got rid of the BLNR was the supercase. Will jump back in MAYBE when they upgrade.
Man agreed I would love for them to slim down the case just like they did to the sub in 2020, but they just keep dribbling out a new reference or two every year with the same (relatively) chunky lugs.

Makes me wonder how long we are going to have to wait for a wholesale change to the GMT case profile...
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Man agreed I would love for them to slim down the case just like they did to the sub in 2020, but they just keep dribbling out a new reference or two every year with the same (relatively) chunky lugs.

Makes me wonder how long we are going to have to wait for a wholesale change to the GMT case profile...
10 years probably!
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10 years probably!
More like 4-5, we’ve seen every metal now, new movement rolled out everywhere too, so what innovation would justify a new model (as much as I’d like a monochrome GRNR in white gold)?

There could be a platinum one with a glass back for the anniversary next year.

But lest they do that, and who knows, it would be uncharacteristically predictable, so probably not, the next step is a new case.

They’re going to let this line sit for a little moment I think, but it will come.
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Old 19 April 2023, 06:06 AM   #30
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Sub and GMT is a great combo.

If have a couple of sub gmt pairings myself
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