Explorer II Ref 16570 Bracelet Questions

[gmcjetpilot]

Educate me on Oyster Bracelets Please. My Explorer II Ref 16570 with stainless Oyster Bracelet (pics below)

How many links does it come with. Mine has 10, 6 and 4. I would think 5 and 5 would make more sense? See pics am I counting correctly?

My wrist is 7.6" with 10 links and the latch on largest of 4 holes, with a loose fit ( but not too loose).

Where can I get another link if needed (genuine). I assume Rolex is the first choice....

https://photos.app.goo.gl/u6dFtrypgnbXdqde7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GsuJMGkDJSycNsi5A

[Tools]

Generally the Exp II comes with a bracelet that has 13 links or the 93150 that has 12. You can put the removable links on whichever side you want them on; both halves are the same.

[gmcjetpilot]

Originally Posted by Tools

Generally the Exp II comes with a bracelet that has 13 links or the 93150 that has 12. You can put the removable links on whichever side you want them on; both halves are the same.

I have a 16570 40mm case. The internet says 11 and later versions 11 or 12. You could be right about 13 links. I have 10 links now and it fits loose on my 7.6" wrist. The average wrist men's size of 7.25"(50% this size or less). However some report 9" wrist. They need all 12 (or 13) links. However that is not a common size.

Model & Ref Bracelet Ref # of Standard Links
Explorer 214270 Oyster 77200 12
Explorer 14270 Oyster 79790 12
Explorer 14270 Oyster 78360 11
Explorer 114270 Oyster 78690 11
Explorer 124270 Oyster 78GB00 12
Explorer II 16570 Oyster 78360 11
Explorer II 16570 Oyster 78790A 11
Explorer II 216570 Oyster 77210 12
Explorer II 226570 Oyster 78KB00 12


From the Googles:
Range in inch Range in cm Total
Up to 5.50″ Up to 13.97 cm 7
Up to 5.75″ Up to 14.61 cm 8
Up to 6.00″ Up to 15.24 cm 24
Up to 6.25″ Up to 15.88 cm 89
Up to 6.50″ Up to 16.51 cm 148
Up to 6.75″ Up to 17.15 cm 207
Up to 7.00″ Up to 17.78 cm 206
Up to 7.25″ Up to 18.42 cm 233
Up to 7.50″ Up to 19.05 cm 195
Up to 7.75″ Up to 19.69 cm 149
Up to 8.00″ Up to 20.32 cm 101
Up to 8.25″ Up to 20.96 cm 80
Up to 8.50″ Up to 21.59 cm 52
Up to 8.75″ Up to 22.23 cm 37
Up to 9.00″ Up to 22.86 cm 14
Greater than 9.00″ More than 22.86cm 13

[Tools]

Originally Posted by gmcjetpilot

I have a 16570 40mm case. The internet says 11 and later versions 11 or 12. You could be right about 13 links. I have 10 links now and it fits loose on my 7.6" wrist. The average wrist men's size of 7.25"(50% this size or less). However some report 9" wrist. They need all 12 (or 13) links. However that is not a common size.

I'm looking at one of mine right now (78790A). I count 13 links.

8 permanent links, 4 on each side.

3 removable links

2 screw links that are used on each side of the clasp to attach to the rest of them.

So, it depends on how you count. 11 if you completely disregard the clasp, but you can't really do that - so 13, including the clasp, both halves, and 3 removables.

You could go further and say 15 if you include the end links.

[Polarexplorerii]

My Z serial came with 12 links.

[wareaglesig]

Very useful information. Thank you. I have another question related to the 16570.

Does anyone know if a modern 97200 bracelet from a sub (116610 / 114060) would fit on my Explorer II? My case has holes but solid endlinks.


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[jbglx]

Why your Explorer II has an Sub 16610 clasp ? Clasp in the Explorer 16570 should be shorter .

https://www.google.com/search?q=role...iw=999&bih=627

[HkPlinker]

I also have an explorer 16570 bracelet question.
During the 2001-2003 transitioning years from the T-III to IV (new movement and no hole SEL bracelets) did the last run of drilled (holes) case watches ever leave the factory with drilled SELs . or were all SEL’s (mates to a drilled case) all solid without access to the spring bar?
I’m looking to buy another 2003 Y serial number “drilled case” watch with SEL. But the end links have the access windows to get to the spring bars. Everything I have read state these SELs should be solid without access to the spring bar. I’m assuming these SEL‘s were swapped out or factory or ?

[HenryThe4th]

Originally Posted by HkPlinker

I also have an explorer 16570 bracelet question.
During the 2001-2003 transitioning years from the T-III to IV (new movement and no hole SEL bracelets) did the last run of drilled (holes) case watches ever leave the factory with drilled SELs . or were all SEL’s (mates to a drilled case) all solid without access to the spring bar?
I’m looking to buy another 2003 Y serial number “drilled case” watch with SEL. But the end links have the access windows to get to the spring bars. Everything I have read state these SELs should be solid without access to the spring bar. I’m assuming these SEL‘s were swapped out or factory or ?

To the best of my knowledge, during that transition period, Rolex did indeed introduce the new solid end link (SEL) bracelets, which were no longer drilled for spring bar access. However, it's possible that some watches from that era may have been fitted with leftover drilled end link bracelets or had their bracelets swapped out later.

[iidzlii]

Let me add on to the questions on this thread. I lost the 6olock side of my bracelet. I’m in the process of looking for one 78790(thank you for putting that chart at the top.) my q is, the end links the replacement that I’m looking at is a u2 code clasp, will that work? I saw some were coded “801”. My watch is an A series 16570

[uansari1]

Originally Posted by wareaglesig

Very useful information. Thank you. I have another question related to the 16570.

Does anyone know if a modern 97200 bracelet from a sub (116610 / 114060) would fit on my Explorer II? My case has holes but solid endlinks.


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I’d like to hear more on this too from someone who’s put a 97200 on their ExpII. My Z serial has SEL and no lug holes…tried fitting up my GMTc bracelet, and the “lip” that mates on the backside of the case is much thicker than the 78790A original. Will a 97200 have a thinner lip or will it be thicker and extend past the case?

[0nly5iv3Digits]

Correct 78790 bracelet has 13 links