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rmlovett1 · 8 October 2023, 10:24 AM

Hey all….If given the choice ….

For context, future value not considered in the choice, you have all other bases covered in your collection, and no ‘need” for a particular complication, metal, etc….

Where would you put your money

-116506 PT Daytona
-Openworked SS
-Openworked RG

HMHM · 8 October 2023, 10:47 AM

The 2 openworked are much better than the Daytona. At that price point, finishing matters a lot and a machine finished Rolex cannot be compared to an openworked AP unfortunately. Between the 2 APs however, it really is a 50/50 decision. Steel APs are legendary for a reason, tracing back to its inception in 1972 but RG with its wrist presence and weight really gives the wearers a special feeling. Unless you are Taiwanese moron that sells his APs for an entry level RM….

crispyness87 · 8 October 2023, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMHM

The 2 openworked are much better than the Daytona. At that price point, finishing matters a lot and a machine finished Rolex cannot be compared to an openworked AP unfortunately. Between the 2 APs however, it really is a 50/50 decision. Steel APs are legendary for a reason, tracing back to its inception in 1972 but RG with its wrist presence and weight really gives the wearers a special feeling. Unless you are Taiwanese moron that sells his APs for an entry level RM….

Selling APs for an entry level RM? Surely a moron like this doesn’t exist? Right?! LOL

Jokes aside, openwork is in my opinion pound-for-pound the best sports watch out there. It’s my most favorite at the very least.

mickyd329 · 8 October 2023, 11:48 AM

Not even close IMO. AP Openworked all day, every day.

m3tek44 · 8 October 2023, 11:59 AM

didn't have to put much thought here. AP ST Openwork without a doubt.

huncho · 8 October 2023, 12:32 PM

AP openworked beats almost every watch for me i think and comparing it to any rolex isn't even fair. not sure what i'd choose between the SS and RG though, feels like RG is an endgame piece but just not sure how wearable it is

Turbo Racer · 8 October 2023, 03:14 PM

Open works for me. Just a brilliant design

Gandor · 8 October 2023, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMHM

The 2 openworked are much better than the Daytona. At that price point, finishing matters a lot and a machine finished Rolex cannot be compared to an openworked AP unfortunately. Between the 2 APs however, it really is a 50/50 decision. Steel APs are legendary for a reason, tracing back to its inception in 1972 but RG with its wrist presence and weight really gives the wearers a special feeling. Unless you are Taiwanese moron that sells his APs for an entry level RM….

The funniest thing about this arc is that RM will drop him even faster than AP when he tries to move that entry RM.

ufboy73 · 8 October 2023, 05:23 PM

Ss openwork!

Vince_76 · 8 October 2023, 06:31 PM

Openworked is miles ahead of any Rolex. SS is my choice, due to the RO’s heritage and my personal taste. Can’t go wrong though - AP RG his best in the business

rmlovett1 · 8 October 2023, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMHM

The 2 openworked are much better than the Daytona. At that price point, finishing matters a lot and a machine finished Rolex cannot be compared to an openworked AP unfortunately. Between the 2 APs however, it really is a 50/50 decision. Steel APs are legendary for a reason, tracing back to its inception in 1972 but RG with its wrist presence and weight really gives the wearers a special feeling. Unless you are Taiwanese moron that sells his APs for an entry level RM….

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispyness87

Selling APs for an entry level RM? Surely a moron like this doesn’t exist? Right?! LOL

Jokes aside, openwork is in my opinion pound-for-pound the best sports watch out there. It’s my most favorite at the very least.

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Originally Posted by mickyd329

Not even close IMO. AP Openworked all day, every day.

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Originally Posted by m3tek44

didn't have to put much thought here. AP ST Openwork without a doubt.

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Originally Posted by huncho

AP openworked beats almost every watch for me i think and comparing it to any rolex isn't even fair. not sure what i'd choose between the SS and RG though, feels like RG is an endgame piece but just not sure how wearable it is

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Originally Posted by Turbo Racer

Open works for me. Just a brilliant design

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandor

The funniest thing about this arc is that RM will drop him even faster than AP when he tries to move that entry RM.

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Originally Posted by ufboy73

Ss openwork!

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Originally Posted by Vince_76

Openworked is miles ahead of any Rolex. SS is my choice, due to the RO’s heritage and my personal taste. Can’t go wrong though - AP RG his best in the business

Great feedback all…..thank you!

VogelPhoenix · 8 October 2023, 07:39 PM

This will probably be the most lop-sided poll I have seen on this sub. Open-worked, obviously. ST vs OR is personal preference, but IMO the 15407ST is really the classic incarnation of this model.

AEV · 8 October 2023, 09:09 PM

Openworked without zero hesitation. It's the definition of haute horlogerie IMO.
I'd personally go for SS.

rcwatchcollector · 8 October 2023, 10:12 PM

SSOW because the SS material with the amount of detail is a contradiction in itself. I love the juxtaposition

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vliberman · 8 October 2023, 11:23 PM

Daytona by a mile… Timeless design that can be enjoyed daily. A workhorse true to its origins but in special uniform..Impeccable accuracy and execution…. Hand finishing is superfluous in this category… if u want that, much better choices out there…

l_chissle · 9 October 2023, 01:13 AM

Why isn't the ceramic in contention?!

Vipes · 9 October 2023, 01:28 AM

Which AP openworked? 39 or 41mm? I had 39mm in past and it’s one of APs finest ROs. I think the platona is more versatile though.

APhound · 9 October 2023, 01:59 AM

I have requested rg open and have been told next year. I’ve never seen one but I have seen the stainless one.
There is no doubt I’d take the APs!
Put it this way, I’d rather have my stainless chrono than my platinum day date.
Here’s the one I got to try out.

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codecow · 9 October 2023, 04:48 AM

The sad thing is if you ask this in the Rolex forum you’ll probably see a majority for the Daytona. SMH

tkdgod · 9 October 2023, 05:21 AM

The open work AP… look incredible but for me the platinum Daytona would be chosen over them.

grahammackay86 · 9 October 2023, 05:25 AM

Openworked all day, every day. Have never been a big fan of the Platinum Daytona personally, don't like the brown bezel.

Which openworked is the more difficult question, but I think the SS edges it.

AperolSpritz · 9 October 2023, 07:34 AM

Any AP > Any Rolex

Sorry but that's just the basics of this game.
Then the "squelette double balancier" is special within AP.

I personally would go for RG

rmlovett1 · 9 October 2023, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

This will probably be the most lop-sided poll I have seen on this sub. Open-worked, obviously. ST vs OR is personal preference, but IMO the 15407ST is really the classic incarnation of this model.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AEV

Openworked without zero hesitation. It's the definition of haute horlogerie IMO.
I'd personally go for SS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcwatchcollector

SSOW because the SS material with the amount of detail is a contradiction in itself. I love the juxtaposition

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vliberman

Daytona by a mile… Timeless design that can be enjoyed daily. A workhorse true to its origins but in special uniform..Impeccable accuracy and execution…. Hand finishing is superfluous in this category… if u want that, much better choices out there…

Quote:

Originally Posted by l_chissle

Why isn't the ceramic in contention?!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vipes

Which AP openworked? 39 or 41mm? I had 39mm in past and it’s one of APs finest ROs. I think the platona is more versatile though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbees319

I have requested rg open and have been told next year. I’ve never seen one but I have seen the stainless one.
There is no doubt I’d take the APs!
Put it this way, I’d rather have my stainless chrono than my platinum day date.
Here’s the one I got to try out.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by codecow

The sad thing is if you ask this in the Rolex forum you’ll probably see a majority for the Daytona. SMH

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkdgod

The open work AP… look incredible but for me the platinum Daytona would be chosen over them.

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Originally Posted by grahammackay86

Openworked all day, every day. Have never been a big fan of the Platinum Daytona personally, don't like the brown bezel.

Which openworked is the more difficult question, but I think the SS edges it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AperolSpritz

Any AP > Any Rolex

Sorry but that's just the basics of this game.
Then the "squelette double balancier" is special within AP.

I personally would go for RG

Much appreciated feedback, thank you

fskywalker · 9 October 2023, 02:15 PM

Platona

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AEV · 9 October 2023, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbees319

I have requested rg open and have been told next year. I’ve never seen one but I have seen the stainless one.
There is no doubt I’d take the APs!
Put it this way, I’d rather have my stainless chrono than my platinum day date.
Here’s the one I got to try out.

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It would be great if it stays in the catalogue for next year. It gives chance to those of us waiting for it.

I have suspicion that it will be discontinued soon.

vliberman · 10 October 2023, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AperolSpritz

Any AP > Any Rolex

Sorry but that's just the basics of this game.
Then the "squelette double balancier" is special within AP.

I personally would go for RG

you should probably go back to basics...

Crazywis · 10 October 2023, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmlovett1

Hey all….If given the choice ….

For context, future value not considered in the choice, you have all other bases covered in your collection, and no ‘need” for a particular complication, metal, etc….

Where would you put your money

-116506 PT Daytona
-Openworked SS
-Openworked RG

Which openworked references are we talking about here - 16204 or 15407

MichelleP · 10 October 2023, 07:59 AM

For me personally it would be the Platona but that is because I have small wrists. If my wrist was 7" plus I'd go with the AP and RG as long as telling the time isn't important to you

Edit: Assuming you're looking at the 41mm

neal.jy · 10 October 2023, 08:30 AM

I appreciate and respect Rolex for what it is, but any AP > any Rolex in my opinion (recognizing I am biased). The openworked pieces are on another level!

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mickyd329 · 10 October 2023, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichelleP

For me personally it would be the Platona but that is because I have small wrists. If my wrist was 7" plus I'd go with the AP and RG as long as telling the time isn't important to you

Edit: Assuming you're looking at the 41mm

I'm used to my AP's not keeping the best times, but the double balance openworked is different. The openworked is keeping better time than my Rolexes so far.

View Poll Results: PT Daytona SS or RG Openworked
Platinum Daytona	26	18.84%
SS Openworked	71	51.45%
RG Openworked	41	29.71%
Voters: 138. You may not vote on this poll

8 October 2023, 10:24 AM	#1
rmlovett1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 23,480	Choice between Rolex or AP…. Hey all….If given the choice …. For context, future value not considered in the choice, you have all other bases covered in your collection, and no ‘need” for a particular complication, metal, etc…. Where would you put your money -116506 PT Daytona -Openworked SS -Openworked RG

8 October 2023, 11:48 AM	#4
mickyd329 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Socal Watch: AP/PP/Rolex Posts: 2,040	Not even close IMO. AP Openworked all day, every day. __________________ PP 5205G-013/ PP 5212A / AP 15416CE /26574 st QP/ AP 50th 16202st /AP 15500st Black / AP 26405CE / AP 77350CE / AP 15551st / AP 67540sk / Rolex 116500 Panda / Rolex 126710 BLRO / Rolex 126610LV Green / Rolex 16570 Black/ Rolex 116300 Blue / Rolex 126710 BLNR / Rolex 126710 GRNR

8 October 2023, 07:39 PM	#12
VogelPhoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Taiwan Posts: 3,861	This will probably be the most lop-sided poll I have seen on this sub. Open-worked, obviously. ST vs OR is personal preference, but IMO the 15407ST is really the classic incarnation of this model. __________________ AP 15500ST Grey // 26237ST Beast // 26331ST Panda // 15450ST Blue // 77350CE Bucci // 26240CE 50th // 15407ST // 26715.ST.ZZ \|\| Rolex 116520 White // 116710 BLNR // 126200 Blue \|\| Omega Seamaster NTTD // Speedy Tokyo LE "Rising Sun" // Speedy cal. 321 "Ed White" A timeless classic - Winding, ticking, faithful time - Golden crown of trust

9 October 2023, 01:59 AM	#18
APhound "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: USA Posts: 2,369	Choice between Rolex or AP…. I have requested rg open and have been told next year. I’ve never seen one but I have seen the stainless one. There is no doubt I’d take the APs! Put it this way, I’d rather have my stainless chrono than my platinum day date. Here’s the one I got to try out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 October 2023, 10:47 AM	#2
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,475	The 2 openworked are much better than the Daytona. At that price point, finishing matters a lot and a machine finished Rolex cannot be compared to an openworked AP unfortunately. Between the 2 APs however, it really is a 50/50 decision. Steel APs are legendary for a reason, tracing back to its inception in 1972 but RG with its wrist presence and weight really gives the wearers a special feeling. Unless you are Taiwanese moron that sells his APs for an entry level RM….

8 October 2023, 11:59 AM	#5
m3tek44 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: this Posts: 1,283	didn't have to put much thought here. AP ST Openwork without a doubt.

8 October 2023, 12:32 PM	#6
huncho 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: nyc Posts: 6,714	AP openworked beats almost every watch for me i think and comparing it to any rolex isn't even fair. not sure what i'd choose between the SS and RG though, feels like RG is an endgame piece but just not sure how wearable it is

8 October 2023, 03:14 PM	#7
Turbo Racer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: USA Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 1,027	Open works for me. Just a brilliant design

8 October 2023, 05:23 PM	#9
ufboy73 Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: usa Posts: 1,601	Ss openwork!

8 October 2023, 06:31 PM	#10
Vince_76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Orange County Posts: 1,904	Openworked is miles ahead of any Rolex. SS is my choice, due to the RO’s heritage and my personal taste. Can’t go wrong though - AP RG his best in the business

8 October 2023, 09:09 PM	#13
AEV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Europe Watch: AP & Rolex Posts: 1,525	Openworked without zero hesitation. It's the definition of haute horlogerie IMO. I'd personally go for SS.

8 October 2023, 10:12 PM	#14
rcwatchcollector Banned Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: New York Posts: 384	SSOW because the SS material with the amount of detail is a contradiction in itself. I love the juxtaposition Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 October 2023, 11:23 PM	#15
vliberman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: los angeles Posts: 315	Daytona by a mile… Timeless design that can be enjoyed daily. A workhorse true to its origins but in special uniform..Impeccable accuracy and execution…. Hand finishing is superfluous in this category… if u want that, much better choices out there…

9 October 2023, 01:13 AM	#16
l_chissle "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Chris Location: Germany Posts: 667	Why isn't the ceramic in contention?!

9 October 2023, 01:28 AM	#17
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,912	Which AP openworked? 39 or 41mm? I had 39mm in past and it’s one of APs finest ROs. I think the platona is more versatile though.

9 October 2023, 04:48 AM	#19
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 5,183	The sad thing is if you ask this in the Rolex forum you’ll probably see a majority for the Daytona. SMH

9 October 2023, 05:21 AM	#20
tkdgod "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: usa Posts: 318	The open work AP… look incredible but for me the platinum Daytona would be chosen over them.

9 October 2023, 05:25 AM	#21
grahammackay86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Watch: Patek/ AP/ Rolex Posts: 289	Openworked all day, every day. Have never been a big fan of the Platinum Daytona personally, don't like the brown bezel. Which openworked is the more difficult question, but I think the SS edges it.

9 October 2023, 07:34 AM	#22
AperolSpritz "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Around the World Posts: 370	Any AP > Any Rolex Sorry but that's just the basics of this game. Then the "squelette double balancier" is special within AP. I personally would go for RG

9 October 2023, 02:15 PM	#24
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,168	Platona Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

10 October 2023, 07:59 AM	#28
MichelleP "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Bay Area Watch: DD 40RG Olive dial Posts: 4,627	For me personally it would be the Platona but that is because I have small wrists. If my wrist was 7" plus I'd go with the AP and RG as long as telling the time isn't important to you Edit: Assuming you're looking at the 41mm

10 October 2023, 08:30 AM	#29
neal.jy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Houston Watch: AP 26240st,26420ce Posts: 251	I appreciate and respect Rolex for what it is, but any AP > any Rolex in my opinion (recognizing I am biased). The openworked pieces are on another level! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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