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Vlex · 4 September 2009, 01:28 PM

Greetings everyone. This is my first post, though I've been lurking here for a while as a guest. I'm hoping to tap some of your expertise.

I just acquired an early 70's 1675 GMT. The dial on the watch looks to have been re-lumed at some point, which is not a big issue to me, but I also notice when looking at the dial closely that the printing seems to have a silverish tint, and does not appear to be white under some lighting conditions. It's definitely got a little sparkle.

I'm posting a few pictures of the watch. I would appreciate any and all comments as it is not yet to late to back out of the deal.

Thanks.

springer · 4 September 2009, 02:15 PM

It looks like a gilt-finish (gold font) dial and it appears to be refinished. The font should be white for a 1970's vintage GMT.

mike · 4 September 2009, 02:37 PM

Yeah, it's been relumed.

Vlex · 4 September 2009, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

Yeah, it's been relumed.

I'm not so worried about the re-lume as I am the accuracy of the dial in general. The silverish text concerns me, as does the spacing on "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER". I've been unable to find another example where the "G" in "GMT" is directly over the "E" in "SUPERLATIVE". Normally it is more of the "R".

Lamone · 4 September 2009, 03:17 PM

I've seen one of these silver font dials of a high quality GMT replica. Perhaps such dial has been put on your GMT...

eparisini · 4 September 2009, 07:55 PM

For a collector it is worthless...

kelly56 · 6 September 2009, 10:44 AM

It looks like a refinished dial. Here's a pic of my 1978 with original dial.

swissautopro · 6 September 2009, 11:00 AM

I saw your post on VRF as well. I have to concur with Ben in this case - IMHO, a replica dial. Particularly suspect is the coronet, but the font and spacing, while very, very close, don't seem quite "right" to me. However, it could be someone's idea of an "artistic" refinish of an original dial, but I doubt it.

springer · 6 September 2009, 04:37 PM

That watch with this dial is listed on ebay right now. Again, that dial is refinished on fake, either way it is fairly worthless on a collector watch. An original dial is around $300 - $400.

I saw this dial being shopped around on other forums also. I guess he's looking for someone to tell him it is genuine.

4 September 2009, 02:15 PM	#2
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,309	It looks like a gilt-finish (gold font) dial and it appears to be refinished. The font should be white for a 1970's vintage GMT. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

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eparisini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Emanuele Location: Italy Watch: 6263 FAP Posts: 795	For a collector it is worthless... __________________ EAT, DRINK AND BE MAUI

6 September 2009, 11:00 AM	#8
swissautopro "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: 3.3M 1655 Mk I Posts: 2,384	I saw your post on VRF as well. I have to concur with Ben in this case - IMHO, a replica dial. Particularly suspect is the coronet, but the font and spacing, while very, very close, don't seem quite "right" to me. However, it could be someone's idea of an "artistic" refinish of an original dial, but I doubt it. __________________ "A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a bandit, and scarcity like an armed man." Proverbs 24 "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." Unknown "Better to be a nobody and yet have a servant than pretend to be somebody and have no food." Proverbs 12

6 September 2009, 04:37 PM	#9
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,309	That watch with this dial is listed on ebay right now. Again, that dial is refinished on fake, either way it is fairly worthless on a collector watch. An original dial is around $300 - $400. I saw this dial being shopped around on other forums also. I guess he's looking for someone to tell him it is genuine. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

4 September 2009, 02:37 PM	#3
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Yeah, it's been relumed.

4 September 2009, 03:17 PM	#5
Lamone Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Watch: ya mawt! Posts: 3,448	I've seen one of these silver font dials of a high quality GMT replica. Perhaps such dial has been put on your GMT...

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