Pepsi supply in UK

[Lugs_0019]

We all know the challenges with this particular piece but I’ve heard from my AD “I don’t know if we will be likely to get another one”
I’ve been checking chrono24 for months and there is always circa 12 2024 models for sale so it would suggest there really isn’t any stock coming through?
Has anyone heard of anything?

[1665fan]

Lol they are sold backdoor to greys……..not too hard to figure out

[996marty]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Lol they are sold backdoor to greys……..not too hard to figure out

Sounds about right

[Bazil]

Slow but not impossible to get …

[Harry-57]

My AD told me in May that supply was slow. One WG in 12 months when they'd usually be expecting at least one more, and 8 SS over the same period which was around one third of what they would normally expect. It can be a bit all over the place in a normal year (whatever that is) but through all the noise the rate of BLRO arrivals is noticeably down - but not stopped.

I wouldn't take anything as gospel but that's my anecdote FWIW.

[Neil McCauley]

My AD has seen 1 come through all year. They’re definitely on the go-slow.

The big chain stores (which most are in the Uk) aren’t selling these in droves out of the back door like people think. It’s a falicy. I can’t speak for the independents or any in other countries.

[3sheets86]

Surely if they were all going out of the back door to greys then chrono24 would be flooded with them instead of there only being 12 or so.

[rockysw]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

My AD has seen 1 come through all year. They’re definitely on the go-slow.

The big chain stores (which most are in the Uk) aren’t selling these in droves out of the back door like people think. It’s a falicy. I can’t speak for the independents or any in other countries.

well i dont understand then how they end up on chrono24 in the UK. Whether its the daytonas, pepsis, ti YM or the new tudor chrono pink, they are available with grey UK dealers (unworn in many cases).

[Hulkhunter]

Do people really think ADs sell them directly to dealers?
I really don’t think this is the case.

They are selling watches and some customers choose not to keep them and they end up on the grey market. Simple as that.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by rockysw

well i dont understand then how they end up on chrono24 in the UK. Whether its the daytonas, pepsis, ti YM or the new tudor chrono pink, they are available with grey UK dealers (unworn in many cases).

It's probably got something to do with people selling them.

[Cassian739]

I think almost 0% chance that a small family owned independent dealer is willing to risk the golden goose that is a Rolex franchise by selling out the back door. Historically- probably, but today- no. Large dealers, maybe a few SAs are cutting side deals with "preferred clients", but at a corporate level, certainly not.

[lcs77]

Which one harder, pepsi or sprite?

[S.Explorer]

Supposedly not one delivery since November. Hard to believe but I still don't think it's worth the resale price.

[Tim Plains]

Originally Posted by Hulkhunter

Do people really think ADs sell them directly to dealers?
I really don’t think this is the case.

They are selling watches and some customers choose not to keep them and they end up on the grey market. Simple as that.

No, it's both direct from AD and customers who flip them. I know this because I've spoken to a couple greys who told me which ADs their watches come from but they are usually attained through rather large six figure bundle deals including other brands.

[Sglider]

I turned down a DJ41 a few weeks ago from a jeweler, wrong dial color, but he did comment on GMT's in general, they aren't being shipped right now.

I'm of the opinion as above, if they were going out the back door, the secondary would be flooded and that's not the case. More rumor and speculation.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by rockysw

well i dont understand then how they end up on chrono24 in the UK. Whether its the daytonas, pepsis, ti YM or the new tudor chrono pink, they are available with grey UK dealers (unworn in many cases).

As Harry said.

People buy them from ADs and flip immediately to resellers for a profit.

Its pretty common and how resellers obtain them.

Why is that so hard to understand?

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Tim Plains

No, it's both direct from AD and customers who flip them. I know this because I've spoken to a couple greys who told me which ADs their watches come from but they are usually attained through rather large six figure bundle deals including other brands.

It may be different in the US. In the UK its highly unlikely resellers obtain their inventory direct.

Rolex USA Inc may not care, but Rolex UK certainly does.

[Gearjockey]

Originally Posted by lcs77

Which one harder, pepsi or sprite?

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[Giangos]

My AD still gets them, but not in every shipment and in much lower numbers than usual.

WG is down to 1-2 a year, and SS 1-2 every other month at most.


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[4reRlxGuy]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Lol they are sold backdoor to greys……..not too hard to figure out

Also here in socal lol. The local greys seem to always have them available with current month warranty cards

[Ferrari-F430]

Originally Posted by Devildog

It may be different in the US. In the UK its highly unlikely resellers obtain their inventory direct.

Rolex USA Inc may not care

huh?

[Neil McCauley]

Originally Posted by rockysw

well i dont understand then how they end up on chrono24 in the UK. Whether its the daytonas, pepsis, ti YM or the new tudor chrono pink, they are available with grey UK dealers (unworn in many cases).

Customers flip them straight to dealers the minute they walk out of the door - sometimes circa 10 grand profit is a lot for someone to turn down. Tax free too...

It happens at all levels, even Le Mans Daytonas ended up on the grey market immediately despite you needing to practically be a VVIP to get one

I've not seen any true evidence of any AD's dealing directly with grey dealers through the back door. It's all rumour, unless someone can actually produce evidence of it happening constantly, then please, I'm all ears. Perhaps some of the grey dealers active on this forum can chime in here and give their view on that.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by S.Explorer

Supposedly not one delivery since November. Hard to believe but I still don't think it's worth the resale price.

Hard for my AD to believe based on their deliveries since November.

[koronet-kid]

IMHO Rolex have focused on the new black/grey bezel production, as these were in ADs within five weeks of watches and wonders, which is unprecedented for Rolex, I think Pepsi production will resume, two ADs in my home town one has received two in quick succession recently, hopefully this is a good sign? Glad I got mine in 2018

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

My AD told me in May that supply was slow. One WG in 12 months when they'd usually be expecting at least one more, and 8 SS over the same period which was around one third of what they would normally expect. It can be a bit all over the place in a normal year (whatever that is) but through all the noise the rate of BLRO arrivals is noticeably down - but not stopped.

I wouldn't take anything as gospel but that's my anecdote FWIW.

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

My AD has seen 1 come through all year. They’re definitely on the go-slow.

The big chain stores (which most are in the Uk) aren’t selling these in droves out of the back door like people think. It’s a falicy. I can’t speak for the independents or any in other countries.

Are you guys shopping at different AD’s ? … asking for a friend

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Are you guys shopping at different AD’s ? … asking for a friend

No.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

No.

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[worldofoyster]

They are available, but reserve for important customers

[kwingy]

I got my Pepsi back in 2021 for my 40th having been on the list for a year. It really does ultimately depend on the connection with your AD - I have never bought any jewellery and was never asked to bundle.

[Jb1264]

Waiting since 2019

The UK based SA said it’s 7 year wait

I have a £40k spend on watches (Rolex & JLC) & jewellery