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Old 14 August 2024, 09:33 PM   #1
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Opinions on these Khanjar & Qatar Dials

I’ve recently come across these dials and would like to know if they are authentic.

As they are missing the batons I believe that their value would be significantly decreased and their condition isn’t great.







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Old 14 August 2024, 11:16 PM   #2
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I have yet to see a Khanjar with the dagger printed over the text…
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Old 15 August 2024, 09:07 AM   #3
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I have yet to see a Khanjar with the dagger printed over the text…

That’s what concerned me, but also they show age so could possibly be aftermarket prints or possibly miss stamps.


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Old 15 August 2024, 09:16 PM   #4
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The font looks really not the quality you would expect of anything post 1950s from Rolex.

For example:



Could just be the pictures though.

Having said that, the fact that someone has gone to the effort of knocking off the indices indicate they were probably gold - so maybe it's a redialed Rolex that someone decided to experiment with a stamp with.
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Old 15 August 2024, 11:01 PM   #5
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Is the State of Qatar logo black and white? The Khanjar logo is the most collectible and attracts the most buyers, so if anyone were to go through the trouble of adding a government crest, I couldn’t imagine them choosing the خليفه Qatar logo—unless it was done by or for a Qatari for personal use. Still, I assume it will be nearly impossible to determine their originality. To me they’re worth $50 a piece, if anything at all
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Old 16 August 2024, 12:07 AM   #6
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Is the State of Qatar logo black and white? The Khanjar logo is the most collectible and attracts the most buyers, so if anyone were to go through the trouble of adding a government crest, I couldn’t imagine them choosing the خليفه Qatar logo—unless it was done by or for a Qatari for personal use. Still, I assume it will be nearly impossible to determine their originality. To me they’re worth $50 a piece, if anything at all

Thanks for the reply, the Qatar logo is certainly black and white as you mentioned. Is there any significance to it being those colours?

Could I ask what the top script means?


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Old 16 August 2024, 06:14 AM   #7
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The word’s transliteration is "Khalifa," which translates to "Ruler" or "Leader." However, I believe that خليفه was the name of the Khalifa (or Amir, which also translates to "Leader" or "Prince") of Qatar at the time this dial was issued. So his name was Khalifa, and he was also the Khalifa of the country, if that makes sense.

I’ve only found examples with colour, which I imagine would be harder to produce than a black and white crest. The black and white version feels and looks elementary like a lazy attempt to me, but I could be wrong.



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The word’s transliteration is "Khalifa," which translates to "Ruler" or "Leader." However, I believe that خليفه was the name of the Khalifa (or Amir, which also translates to "Leader" or "Prince") of Qatar at the time this dial was issued. So his name was Khalifa, and he was also the Khalifa of the country, if that makes sense.

I’ve only found examples with colour, which I imagine would be harder to produce than a black and white crest. The black and white version feels and looks elementary like a lazy attempt to me, but I could be wrong.



Agreed, and on top of that, the dot is missing on top of the 'kh'
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Old 16 August 2024, 07:45 AM   #9
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I didn’t even notice the missing dot. Without the dot, it’s a “Ha”, a completely different letter in the alphabet. Unfortunately this doesn’t bode well for its originality.
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