1016 Bracelet ID from 1 Rivet Link - Help

[DavidSB]

I bought my 1016 new in 1967 ($187 and have the full set including receipt, hang tag, chronometer certificate, manual, and the box), wore it daily for years and went through 3 bracelets: the original rivet bracelet, a Jubilee market "8-70, B-219, Rolex USA" with 50 end links, and the current 9315 with 380 end links. The watch photo is with the 9315.

I have the last two but I'd like to find a bracelet that came with the watch and fortunately kept one of the original rivet links. Can anyone help identifying the bracelet it came with from photos of this link? It may have been a "C&I" or possibly a 7206 with 58 end links.

Any help would be much appreciated.

[Kingface66]

Looks like C&I with the holes in the rivet heads

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by Kingface66

Looks like C&I with the holes in the rivet heads

Yes, and the narrower center links. C&I on the left of this photo.

[springer]

You need to find a C&I USA bracelet based on the link depicted in the first couple of your photos.

It needs 20mm end links to fit your watch.

Check around and if you can't locate a decent example, let me know and I should be able to help you out.

jP

[DavidSB]

Thanks guys. Are the end links numbered with C&I bracelets?

Dan S. - I'm not seeing it. Mine look like wider center links, more like the middle or right in your photo. Can you look again and confirm please.

JP - I know of a C&I USA that's long enough but I have to get photos again to confirm proper center link size and end link width. If it's not right, I'll message you.

Not on the subject but below is the Guaranty and Instruction page on regulating that you all might enjoy reading.

[Dan S]

I guess it would help if we knew which link you are posting. I assumed it was one of the links near the clasp on a C&I.

[DavidSB]

I don't know for sure but I'm guessing it was removed to size so yes, at/near the clasp.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by DavidSB

I don't know for sure but I'm guessing it was removed to size so yes, at/near the clasp.

Maybe I missed it, but if you want to identify a link the first thing to do is to measure it. Full width, width of sections, etc. Then it can be compared with known examples.

[springer]

The USA manufactured C&I Oyster bracelets do not have end link numbers.

[DavidSB]

JP - thanks re: end links.
Dan S - just measured the link.
Total width 15.0mm
Center link 6.8mm
Side links (to outside of end plate) 4.07
6.8 + 4.07 + 4.07 = 14.94, say 15 mm

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by DavidSB

JP - thanks re: end links.
Dan S - just measured the link.
Total width 15.0mm
Center link 6.8mm
Side links (to outside of end plate) 4.07
6.8 + 4.07 + 4.07 = 14.94, say 15 mm

I can measure some bracelets later tonight if nobody does it first.

[Juhuatai]

It's C+I as it has the open rivets. 7206 has the solid closed rivets

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by Juhuatai

It's C+I as it has the open rivets. 7206 has the solid closed rivets

No question, assuming all original parts. And it looks like a C&I to me in all respects. But I don't mind measuring to confirm.

Of course, in the OP's place, I might be considering which rivet bracelet fits, looks, and feels best, rather than which one originally came on the watch, but that's obviously a personal choice.

[CTech]

Apart from the hollow rivets that identify the bracelet as one made by C+I, the relative widths of the center link and the side links clearly confirm that it is the same pattern as the one on the left in Dan's photo in post #3.

It is easier to do the calculations if the side plates are ignored and all the measurements taken from the outside edges of the links, not the outside edges of the side plates.

On the OP's original photo the center link is about 48% of the total link width with the side links being about 25-26% of the total link width.

A C+I bracelet link generally has the relative link widths very close to these numbers whereas the Swiss made bracelets have the center link around 63% of the total link width with the side links around 17% of the total link width.

So clearly, the OP's link is from a C+I bracelet.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by DavidSB

JP - thanks re: end links.
Dan S - just measured the link.
Total width 15.0mm
Center link 6.8mm
Side links (to outside of end plate) 4.07
6.8 + 4.07 + 4.07 = 14.94, say 15 mm

Measurements:

- The center links on a C&I are about 7mm, and the last link next to the blade is 15mm wide total.

- The center links on a 7206 are about 9mm.

[DavidSB]

Everyone's expertise and efforts are much appreciated. I may have found a C&I to complete this heirloom that my family enjoys on special occassions and started us on a life-long watch collecting journey. Thank you all.
David

[Dan S]

Just don't blame us when you find that you don't like the way it fits. :-)

[DavidSB]

No blame - just thanks!

I only wear it for special family occasions and will keep in on the current 9315. A C&I is the only thing missing from the original kit and it will be interesting to have the evolution to the Jubilee B-219 an 9315.

[Apdl]

Wow, David I think its so cool you have owned this for nearly 60 years! Good love with your search!