Hello!

[ggill]

Hi guys,

I'm new here and to Vintage Rolexes. I am considering a foray in to Vintage Subs but know I need to be very careful. I am a big fan of TZ-UK but have been told by a collector (also from London, UK) that I need to join this forum to keep away from harm so to speak! Thank you for listening to me and allowing me on this fantastic resource.

See what you think of this spec and what price I should pay?

Vintage rolex submariner 5513. Year 1986. (L serial) Fully serviced. Full set.
fantastic piece. perfect condition. tritium markers and hands (original). matching perfectly. splenid patina. dial, case, oyster 93150 bracelet in a top condition.
No scratch no where. Plexi-glass as new. Movement as new.
The piece has been fully serviced, totally overhold, last may, by the "Olivine prestige" factory, one of the most famous vintage rolex expert factory.
admirable se and very rare set (19 )ieces!)/
- vintage US rolex box king size.
- vintage card- holder;
Vintage calendar/rolex map 198-.
- Vintage translation booklet 1986.
- vintage rolex red tag
- vintage rolex polishing cloth.
- Vintage steel rolex box with two pieces for the bracelet.
- vintage facory booklet.
- vintage rolex trip box.
- new cloyh zulu NATO maratac strap.

Certificate/ warrantee two years since the watch was serviced - 2 months ago.


I am looking for a watch that is situated in the UK that is vintage but going to appreciate in value so that I don't feel guilty about spending such a large sum!

Thanks

[Lol-x]

It will have the newer gloss dial with white gold surrounds on the hour markers.
I'd say $5,000-$6,000 might be the price.

[jdc]

you will always pay more for a 5513 in UK than USA, but factor in import taxes and handling charges at 20% plus. I would look for matte dial earlier than your are looking for, Better value for what you state would be a 14060 trit very undervalued in UK and USA at present.

[mcjp6]

Hi and Welcome to TRF....

I would go a little lower than Steve as its a later model, it has all the "bits" but I did'nt see mention of any papers. I believe the maxi matt dials are fetching a little more, so IMHO I would go with $4500-$5000.

edit

I did not factor this in

Originally Posted by jdc

you will always pay more for a 5513 in UK than USA

[Lol-x]

By the way "L" serial is not 1986, but more like 1989-90.

[ggill]

Hi guys,

Interesting how you say L serial is later than '86

I was quoted offers around 4600 Euros which from what you are saying is far too much?

I am just very worried about the provinence about vintages and this owner has owned it from new and is a news reporter no less!

I am travelling to Singapore next month would prices be better there? If I had time I'd probably hit the US since tax and the $.

[ggill]

What is the deal with Red Subs?

How much could I pick up one of those with papers?

Thanks

[Davvan]

1680 Red with papers? I´d say 10K Euro or about the same amount in dollares.

David

[springer]

Hello and welcome to TRF. From what I read, this 5513 does not have "papers" which refers to the original warranty paper that came with the watch from Rolex when it was new. It makes a major difference in price, vs Rolex service papers which anyone can obtain if Rolex services the watch. Service papers are not the same as "papers."

Once the original warranty paper is gone, it's gone for good. Many collectors love to have those original warranty papers, hence the premium prices for vintage watches with the warranty paper.

In the USA, a 1989 5513, complete with accessories without the original warranty paper is a $3,000 watch.