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simmo · 23 October 2009, 05:05 PM

Can anyone help.
I purchased a Tudor Rolex in 1978 I still have/had the original book and purchase docket, this watch has only ever been out of my possession on 2 occasions, once for a new band it was sent to Melbourne, and once to either Brisbane or Sydney for a check up and a new lens.

I recently sold it on ebay to a chap in the USA and he has stopped my paypal claiming the paper work does not correspond with the case number, I did not know about any numbers or where they were untill he told me of the differences.

The case number is 931376 and the number on the paper work is 122102/9411/0 any suggestion as to what may have happed. at this point in time he still has the watch and original box and paper work.

I have told him I will give him his money back but I will need to check the watch before I release any of my money. not sure how to do this as the post wont register watches for over 250 euro
simmo

Submarino · 24 October 2009, 01:47 AM

The 9411/0 is the model reference number of your watch so that is correct. The other number should match the number on the watch. Did you inspect the numbers on your watch before sending it to the buyer? What numbers appear on your service documents? Check those if you didn't send them with the watch and contact Rolex Service Center to double check your numbers.

Also make sure that this buyer is not trying to just pull your arm claiming that the numbers don't match.

Dan Pierce · 24 October 2009, 01:49 AM

Sorry I can't be of any help but sure hope you get it resolved.
Best of luck,
dP

T5AUS · 24 October 2009, 07:11 AM

This sounds odd, I would get him to just return the watch if you can. Did you purchase it brand new or second hand back in 1978?. The buyer could be trying to pull a fast one or something was not quite right when you originally purchased it in 78, either way, play it by the Paypal book and only communicate with the buyer through Ebay messages or Paypal, that way there is always a legitimate record of who said what and it cant be altered. Also, get it sent back by say FedEx, just so that you can be sure it was collected from him and not "lost" in the postal system after he posted it.(ie never posted) You might have to pay for this, but with a valuable watch it is worth doing, what feedback does the buyer have. If the buyer is in the US why are we talking insurance in Euros ?
Good luck

simmo · 24 October 2009, 09:31 AM

Thank you to those that replied, Yes bought it new, I have never checked any numbers and in fact through ignorance I never knew there were any and how important they would be at a later date. when the buyer bought the watch on ebay it only was on there 2hr &13min before it sold, he expressly wanted me to post fedx but i could get no insurance above $1000.00 us so we elected to go AAe, Guess what it got lost and took 1 month to get to buyer (Texas). We later found out AAE agent should not have insured for $3500.00! au
It looks like I have to make sure that the $3500 is in paypal before he sends the watch back, this is where I could get ripped off if he is not a responsible person.

springer · 24 October 2009, 01:17 PM

Another paypal misadventure in the making. Good luck!

23 October 2009, 05:05 PM	#1
simmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Australia Qld. Posts: 2	Tudor Rolex Submariner Can anyone help. I purchased a Tudor Rolex in 1978 I still have/had the original book and purchase docket, this watch has only ever been out of my possession on 2 occasions, once for a new band it was sent to Melbourne, and once to either Brisbane or Sydney for a check up and a new lens. I recently sold it on ebay to a chap in the USA and he has stopped my paypal claiming the paper work does not correspond with the case number, I did not know about any numbers or where they were untill he told me of the differences. The case number is 931376 and the number on the paper work is 122102/9411/0 any suggestion as to what may have happed. at this point in time he still has the watch and original box and paper work. I have told him I will give him his money back but I will need to check the watch before I release any of my money. not sure how to do this as the post wont register watches for over 250 euro simmo

24 October 2009, 01:47 AM	#2
Submarino "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Mr. H Location: Dallas Watch: them for me! Posts: 7,180	The 9411/0 is the model reference number of your watch so that is correct. The other number should match the number on the watch. Did you inspect the numbers on your watch before sending it to the buyer? What numbers appear on your service documents? Check those if you didn't send them with the watch and contact Rolex Service Center to double check your numbers. Also make sure that this buyer is not trying to just pull your arm claiming that the numbers don't match. __________________ WATCHES ARE THE NEW CURRENCY!/ MEMBER 27491/OFFICIALLY DESIGNATED OLD TIMER /AP OWNERS CLUB MEMBER Instagram @watchcollectinglifestyle

24 October 2009, 01:49 AM	#3
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,191	Sorry I can't be of any help but sure hope you get it resolved. Best of luck, dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

24 October 2009, 07:11 AM	#4
T5AUS Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Watch: ing the time go by Posts: 1,444	This sounds odd, I would get him to just return the watch if you can. Did you purchase it brand new or second hand back in 1978?. The buyer could be trying to pull a fast one or something was not quite right when you originally purchased it in 78, either way, play it by the Paypal book and only communicate with the buyer through Ebay messages or Paypal, that way there is always a legitimate record of who said what and it cant be altered. Also, get it sent back by say FedEx, just so that you can be sure it was collected from him and not "lost" in the postal system after he posted it.(ie never posted) You might have to pay for this, but with a valuable watch it is worth doing, what feedback does the buyer have. If the buyer is in the US why are we talking insurance in Euros ? Good luck Last edited by T5AUS; 24 October 2009 at 07:15 AM.. Reason: script

24 October 2009, 01:17 PM	#6
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,309	Another paypal misadventure in the making. Good luck! __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

24 October 2009, 09:31 AM	#5
simmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Australia Qld. Posts: 2	Thank you to those that replied, Yes bought it new, I have never checked any numbers and in fact through ignorance I never knew there were any and how important they would be at a later date. when the buyer bought the watch on ebay it only was on there 2hr &13min before it sold, he expressly wanted me to post fedx but i could get no insurance above $1000.00 us so we elected to go AAe, Guess what it got lost and took 1 month to get to buyer (Texas). We later found out AAE agent should not have insured for $3500.00! au It looks like I have to make sure that the $3500 is in paypal before he sends the watch back, this is where I could get ripped off if he is not a responsible person.

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