SS Daytona is still VERY hard to get from most ADs...

[rr-nyc]

Originally Posted by Jake B

Do you realize how many AD there are in HK? There's no debate, they're available.

That's fine. Perhaps you shouldn't post pics of used, discontinued Daytonas to support your assertion that new Daytonas are in abundance in HK

[Jake B]

Originally Posted by rr-nyc

That's fine. Perhaps you shouldn't post pics of used, discontinued Daytonas to support your assertion that new Daytonas are in abundance in HK

Ok, I'll remove the pic (that was taken over a year ago).. You're right, genius, you outed me. There are actually no Daytonas available in Hong Kong.

[rr-nyc]

Originally Posted by Jake B

Ok, I'll remove the pic (that was taken over a year ago).. You're right, genius, you outed me. There are actually no Daytonas available in Hong Kong.

I don't know if Daytonas are in HK. Someone else stated no while you say otherwise.

You're pissy at me for pointing out that your pic contains all used Daytonas while you stated that Daytonas are "Not hard to find here [in HK]...They're all over the place" and then say that the pic is a year old?

I can buy gold at $625oz.... You want to see my Wall Street journal from 8/15/2006?

[caryyee]

Ditto. The thread is about the availability of current model Daytona's from AD's, not discontinued models from maybe grey market dealers ... it confuses things mightily! :-)

[Jake B]

Originally Posted by rr-nyc

I don't know if Daytonas are in HK. Someone else stated no while you say otherwise.

You're pissy at me for pointing out that your pic contains all used Daytonas while you stated that Daytonas are "Not hard to find here [in HK]...They're all over the place" and then say that the pic is a year old?

I can buy gold at $625oz.... You want to see my Wall Street journal from 8/15/2006?

No one's pissy, unless you have a pissy tone in your head. Honestly, what do I possibly have to gain by saying that there are Daytonas available in Hong Kong? Correct, fella... I have absolutely nothing to gain. Now, the fact is, there are brand spankin' new Daytonas available here at authorized dealers if you take the time to shop around for an hour. Some AD will have them, some won't. There are AD here all over the place. There are 4 within a stone's throw from my flat, and I live in the New Territories. Anyways, they are indeed here, and if anyone's visiting, I'd be happy to have a beer with you and shop for one. That is, anyone who's not feeling "pissy"

[rr-nyc]

Originally Posted by Jake B

No one's pissy, unless you have a pissy tone in your head. Honestly, what do I possibly have to gain by saying that there are Daytonas available in Hong Kong? Correct, fella... I have absolutely nothing to gain. Now, the fact is, there are Daytonas available here if you take the time to shop around for an hour. Some AD will have them, some won't. There are AD here all over the place. There are 4 within a stone's throw from my flat, and I live in the New Territories. Anyways, they are indeed here, and if anyone's visiting, I'd be happy to have a beer with you and shop for one. That is, anyone who's not feeling "pissy"

Go back and point out where I disputed your claim of Daytona's sitting at every AD in Hong Kong. I merely pointed out that the Daytona's in your pic aren't new. You're saying that new ones are everywhere...fine... but then you post a year old pic of 10 year old, used watches as proof?

If anything, you should be addressing the other member in Hong Kong who said there are none. He's the only one of the thread that can agree or disagree with your claim.

[The Waddler]

Don't want to get involved but am compelled to say that I've seen Daytona's in AD's in HK just like I have in SG. They are readily available. Fact.

Now play nice you two

[Jake B]

Originally Posted by The Waddler

Don't want to get involved but am compelled to say that I've seen Daytona's in AD's in HK just like I have in SG. They are readily available. Fact.

Now play nice you two

...and there ya have it.

Hey, sorry for the pic. I was just making a quick passing comment to say that they're available. The pic, is just an old daytonas pic that I had on file to add some colour to a pretty boring thread.

[Gaijin]

This topic comes up about every few months or so.

Bottom line it is a regional thing. Some areas of the world you have a heck of a time finding one at an AD. Where I used to live in the US for example. However where I live now they are in darn near every AD and grey dealer you enter. New ones.

[Steven79]

Meh, just got back from Taiwan, every AD had 2-3 in stock. I must have seen at least 30 SS Daytona's in AD windows over a period of 2 weeks.

1 in 2 had Hulks in stock also.

In Asia, SS daytona's are not as popular as they are here in the U.S.

[darkside7]

Just saw both black and white ss daytonas at my local ad

[FatsoNoMore]

Been going to a couple of AD's here in Houston and the suburbs for years. The funny thing, is they ask whether you want a Black or White face then they go to the back and make you wait and then comeback out and say they don't have any. They then ask if you want to get on the list.

If I was working in the AD, i'd know instantly whether we had one or not and not and be upfront with the client.

Maybe it is also the way I dress, shorts and polo shirt, Maybe I am not good enough :)

Just my experience.

[Royalex]

Daytona is no longer difficultly to find one in AD, especially in Asia.

[Time Exposure]

Originally Posted by FatsoNoMore

Been going to a couple of AD's here in Houston and the suburbs for years. The funny thing, is they ask whether you want a Black or White face then they go to the back and make you wait and then comeback out and say they don't have any. They then ask if you want to get on the list.

If I was working in the AD, i'd know instantly whether we had one or not and not and be upfront with the client.

Maybe it is also the way I dress, shorts and polo shirt, Maybe I am not good enough :)

Just my experience.

Originally Posted by Royalex

Daytona is no longer difficultly to find one in AD, especially in Asia.

Yeah, things have changed a bit in the two year span between posts on this thread...

[redsubby]

I have never ever seen any SS Daytona in AD's display case in the past 12 years. Don't know if they are in the back since I never asked.

[Fleetlord]

No problem whatsoever acquiring any modern Rolex immediately within a 45min - 1hr drive.

All models in stock for immediate purchase at all times.

[curleypubes]

Seems to me that the market has changed a ton in the last 2 years. A little over 2 years ago I set out to get my first nice watch, a SS Daytona. I searched every AD in dallas, nobody had one even in the back...Ended up thankfully buying off this site.

Last week I was offered ( without even asking I might add) SS Daytonas at 3 local ADs. I was hoping to look at new Sky Dwellers that just came out and they said we haven't gotten them in yet but would you like to buy a SS Daytona..One guy told me demand has gone way down for them.

[Perrinyanna]

My experience with ADs from Asia to Europe is a bit of a hit and miss thing...sometimes there are good days that they will have the hard to find models in stock, and days when they will tell you they have not recd anything interesting...Normally based on my personal experience its "easier" to find hard to find models like Hulk, BLNR, daytonas, etc in not so touristy/popular cities in EU(and in Asia)..and sometimes they may still give some discount... one dealer may have all in stock, while in big and popular cities they rarely give discount for hard to find models in the rare chance that they have it in stock...once i asked for a SS daytona and they answered "thats impossible", ..so it all depends on the timing and if the price and discount is important to you..

[jjm1970]

My Daytona experience went something like this. I've been after one since the eighties when I got into Rolex during my first stint in the army (first Swiss watch was a Heuer F1 in high school, cracked the crystal in a motorcycle accident). I eventually purchased my first Rolex , a GMTII in 1997. I have frequented ADs throughout the 90s, 00s, and through today. I have never seen a SS Daytona displayed in the case and I would usually ask a sales person if they had one in stock. Only once did an AD bring one out for me, and that was in Raleigh, NC while I was stationed at Ft. Bragg a few years ago during the recession (I was wearing my GMTII at the time). Unfortunately, I didn't have the money that day to buy it, so I was out of luck.

Fast forward to this year, and I have the means now, so I went hunting as usual, but this time with real purpose. My first stops were to the ADs here in Stuttgart, Germany. There are 3 of them. I was quoted, in descending order, 7 years (Wempe), 3-4 years, and "call the owner, he controls who buys the 2 Daytonas we get per year."

I then went to the grey market dealer in the same area of town (Konig strasse, Ralf Haffner). He had both white and black dials in the window on display. Being an active duty soldier in Germany, I get tax relief when buying things here. But for some reason, Haffner couldn't sell me either of the Daytonas he had in stock without charging me the VAT (he tried to explain to me the reason, but it was lost in translation and German laws). He said he would have to order another one to be able to sell it to me without charging me the 19% tax. So he made some calls, and it was going to take until next year to get it.

My wife suggested I call the AD where I bought my DSSD from just to check (she wanted me to go the AD route since I've always bought Rolex at ADs). And lo and behold, he had one in that he was about to ship to Columbia, SC because that store (Reed's) had a buyer for it lined up. But he told me if I wanted it, it could be mine for the taking. I'm wearing it now.

Sorry for the book, but it does seem like they're "easier" to get these days in some places, but not necessarily "easy" anywhere, and still very difficult in other places (i.e. Stuttgart).

[HORNBLOWER]

Dont believe the hype folks, ss daytonas are for sale everywhere.

[Roger1079]

Originally Posted by rookiewatch

Don't understand why some OPs here saying that Daytona is not difficult to get at all from ADs but at least it is NOT the case in Northern California.....

Here is my personal experience in last few months.... I have been 7 ADs (4 ADs in SF, San Ramon, Concord, Milpitas etc).

None of the stores got Daytona in display or in the back (Only 2 tone, RG and WG in one or other store) and I was told SS are hardly come by.

However, 2 of the 7 ADs I have been to got 116610LV Green Sub on display and ready to sell for list price + tax.

For 116710, 116610 and 216570 are always availabe on display in one or other stores.

Based on my personal experience from above . SS Daytona is still very hard to get (Already got one from the TRUSTED seller here ) and the next hard to get is 116610LV..

Have you guys expereienced the same in your area?

Mine took 4 days to get from my AD from the time I asked for it to the time they had it in store. This was 3 months ago. Here is the rub though. Before they pulled my customer history, the story from the salesperson was a one year list and they were not obtainable for immediate purchase. After she pulled my purchase history, all of a sudden they MAY be able to "locate" one. The demand is artificial and for the life of me I cannot figure out why any company would sit on inventory purposely when there are people willing to buy them. They obviously had my watch available somewhere in the company as any special order would not have been there in 4 days, but still told me there was a list when I first asked. I still don't understand it and likely never will.

I paid 12000 plus tax for mine, but that is normal. My AD cannot discount stainless models at all. Two tone watches can fetch a small discount. Gold of any kind and Platinum and the discount can be anywhere from 10 - 20% depending on the model.

I suppose AD's are just perpetuating the Daytona scarcity from the 90's. I cannot figure out why though being that they are not selling them above MSRP. For me, a wait list of any length should mean the company has no inventory and cannot source one that is in stock elsewhere. Why any company would choose to decline a 12000 sale and put someone on a list just doesn't make any sense to me, but it can and does happen.

[Roger1079]

Originally Posted by redsubby

I have never ever seen any SS Daytona in AD's display case in the past 12 years. Don't know if they are in the back since I never asked.

I was in a gray market store the other day at the Sawgrass Mall that had 4 preowned in the display case. They were all 116520 and 2 were black dial and the other 2 had a white dial. When asked about they blabbered about a 5 year wait list elsewhere and that was how they were justifying the $13000 price tag. They wanted $1000 over the MSRP on a preowned watch that was likely produced and sold before the most recent price increase. I would like to think those watches will be in that stores case forever, but I am sure eventually someone will buy into the hype and purchase them.

[Mezz72]

In SG I've seen gold, half gold, diamonds and white. But never have I seen a black one in the past 2 years on display.
Not in SG, not in MY, not in ID, not in AU, not in JP, not in US.
Sometimes I'm not sure whether you guys mean any daytona or a black ss daytona....

[Rolex king 68]

Out of the 7 AD I deal with all but 1 has a SS in stock. And 2 AD are discounting to their good clients.

[Nycturbovr6]

I've seen a few in New York

[Shem]

Right after I bought my Yacht-Master from my AD, I asked them if they had any SS Daytonas. They said that the owner of the (small) chain keeps them in a safe at headquarters and only shows them to VIP clients, and that I'd have to buy a few more Rolexes before he'd even consider letting me look upon one.

I'll tell you, between this AD with the SS Daytonas and my other local AD refusing to let me even look through the window of the box at a Nautilus 5712 unless I paid full MSRP on the spot, my local AD's don't impress me much. :P

[Vaxe]

$12K is small change for Rolex if you consider the list price of precious metal models.
Artificial shortage bolsters Veblen goods. As echoed by many, 116520 is not hard to find. You don't see it on display as "ADs have been encouraged by Rolex to keep them in the back", verbatim.

Originally Posted by Roger1079

Mine took 4 days to get from my AD from the time I asked for it to the time they had it in store. This was 3 months ago. Here is the rub though. Before they pulled my customer history, the story from the salesperson was a one year list and they were not obtainable for immediate purchase. After she pulled my purchase history, all of a sudden they MAY be able to "locate" one. The demand is artificial and for the life of me I cannot figure out why any company would sit on inventory purposely when there are people willing to buy them. They obviously had my watch available somewhere in the company as any special order would not have been there in 4 days, but still told me there was a list when I first asked. I still don't understand it and likely never will.

I paid 12000 plus tax for mine, but that is normal. My AD cannot discount stainless models at all. Two tone watches can fetch a small discount. Gold of any kind and Platinum and the discount can be anywhere from 10 - 20% depending on the model.

I suppose AD's are just perpetuating the Daytona scarcity from the 90's. I cannot figure out why though being that they are not selling them above MSRP. For me, a wait list of any length should mean the company has no inventory and cannot source one that is in stock elsewhere. Why any company would choose to decline a 12000 sale and put someone on a list just doesn't make any sense to me, but it can and does happen.

[Time Exposure]

My dream is to buy a Daytona from a reputable seller here, wear it to the AD, and remind them they said they didn't have any when I asked. Then I'll tell them another AD offered it to me when I bought my platinum Day-Date II and my wife's Everose Daytona strap model...BAM!
It only plays out in my head. The AD probably wouldn't give a flying f?€{ what I say...

[joleel7]

SS Daytona availability will depend on your relationship with the AD.