Vacheron Constantin Overseas vs. Rolex Daytona

[Louies]

How can you tell the difference between the 116520 and the 116500 model based on visual inspection? Below are the 116520 and 116500LN from a online vendor.

http://www.luxuryofwatches.com/rolex...16500ln-white/

http://www.luxuryofwatches.com/rolex...-116520-white/




What I want is the 116500LN model 2016. But judging from the two images, I can't tell one from another. If they're not that much different, why would anyone want to pay a premium for the 116500LN?

[dgobin208]

I think its up to you as to whether or not its important. In part it influenced my decision recently to buy an AP over a VC. If not in-house the internal components of the watch are being made by a different company and possibly being shared with other watch companies (not sure about that particular movement though). Not that it means the movement is any less solid. However, I think part of the justification for an expensive timepiece is that you are buying from a watchmaker whose craftsmen build most components of your watch. For a smaller watchmaker who may lack the scale of say Rolex its probably cheaper to source them from outside. In fact I believe the new VC overseas chronograph is going up in MSRP by $8000 or so as they move to an in-house movement. Id be a little less fussy when spending 3-5k on a watch but in the price range you are looking at in-house movements are becoming the expectation. Ultimately though its your decision as to whether that's important to you. I cant help but wonder how non-in house movements on the older VCs might be viewed a few years down the road (not that it seems to hurt the zenith powered daytonas any.....). Even still I love the look and feel of the VC Overseas Chrono and wouldn't necessarily rule it out down the road.

[dgobin208]

Originally Posted by Louies

How can you tell the difference between the 116520 and the 116500 model based on visual inspection? Below are the 116520 and 116500LN from a online vendor.

http://www.luxuryofwatches.com/rolex...16500ln-white/

http://www.luxuryofwatches.com/rolex...-116520-white/

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What I want is the 116500LN model 2016. But judging from the two images, I can't tell one from another. If they're not that much different, why would anyone want to pay a premium for the 116500LN?

I assume they just took the older version of the Daytona and modified it to look like the newer one. Im guessing that the custom version will be worth a whole lot less than the real thing when the new versions come down to earth in pricing. No one will want the copy at that point. Just my 2 cents.

[Louies]

Originally Posted by dgobin208

... Id be a little less fussy when spending 3-5k on a watch but in the price range you are looking at in-house movements are becoming the expectation...

That explains why the current VCOC version is 30% off the MSRP?

[ming the merciless]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

Great photo of a beautiful watch!!!

Yeah, I agree. Fantastic watch.

[Investr]

As far as resale, you'll get slaughtered on the resale on the VC. Trusted sellers buy these for 8500-9k max. You know the deal on the 116500....

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by Louies

How can you tell the difference between the 116520 and the 116500 model based on visual inspection? Below are the 116520 and 116500LN from a online vendor.

What I want is the 116500LN model 2016. But judging from the two images, I can't tell one from another. If they're not that much different, why would anyone want to pay a premium for the 116500LN?

If you look at the description of the bezel on the 116520 it says: "Custom" Ceramic.

Must be an aftermarket bezel, not even a Rolex genuine part.

[sinncollector]

i prefer VC, but the old dual-time model. the one with textured dial. it doesn't look like it's in the current line up though

[XZACM102]

For some reason I keep watching this again and again.....
http://overseas.vacheron-constantin....on-videos.html

[Louies]

Do you guys buy your Rolex & VC online at vendors such as Jomashop or at the Authorized Dealers? Are the savings and selection worth the risk? What other online vendors do you guys recommend?

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by Louies

Do you guys buy your Rolex & VC online at vendors such as Jomashop or at the Authorized Dealers? Are the savings and selection worth the risk? What other online vendors do you guys recommend?

I personally won't use an online reseller like Joma or Furman. I want the Rolex factory warranty. I much prefer one of the trusted sellers here. I found the savings is substantial versus an AD.

[improviz]

Yup, trusted seller is the way to go, although on the BNIB Rolex sports watches (particularly Daytona) savings is not typically as great, and in fact right now since the new ceramic Daytona is all-new and scarce, you'd pay substantially less for it at an AD (in the off chance you're able to locate one) than from a trusted seller, where it would be marked up due to high demand.

[guy369]

I would have voted daytona, but I tried on the VC last month and loved it!

If I could get one used for a great price I would jump at the opportunity.

[DawgByte]

Another vote for Daytona.

[JP Chestnut]

Look into VC service costs. I heard tell of one that needed an astronomically expensive "regular service". I think it was posted on this forum - do a search.

[vman]

Originally Posted by dgobin208

true but the overseas only dates back 20 years and if it's a movement from another watchmaker (a modified f piguet i believe) then you could argue that vc is only supplying the jewelry piece of the watch whereas rolex is making the whole hammer. Personally though i believe the finish of the vc is far superior.

+1

[improviz]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Look into VC service costs. I heard tell of one that needed an astronomically expensive "regular service". I think it was posted on this forum - do a search.

I think it's a bit more expensive than a Daytona, but not prohibitively so given the 9K difference in msrp.